Arnold was the problem the day he caved the first time, long befor the special election and blaming conservatives for that will not make it true.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all the fault of conservatives. You Arnoldbots are the ones who keep whining that only "moderates" can win because Dems outnumber Republicans by such a large margin in CA. When are going to apply your OWN rules and figure out that you would have lost the "special election" even if 100% of the "Republican base" turned out? REPUBLICANS ARE A MINORITY IN CALIFORNIA. THE DEMS "BASE" OUTNUMBERS YOUR "BASE" BY HUGE MARGINS -- YOU CANNOT WIN A "SPECIAL ELECTION" JUST BY GETTING THE "REPUBLICAN VOTE" out.
Now if Arnold had not wasted billions on a "special election" and worked to get crossover votes from conservative Democrats and independants during a REGULAR election -- THEN he might have won. That's ALSO how "unelectable" conservative Republicans were elected Governor in heavily Dem states like Rhode Island and Arkansas. I shouldn't waste my breath though, becuase you Arnoldbots just blindly vote "R", regardless of idelogy, and think it works that way with the rest of the state, too.
Bingo. And of course all CA Freepers who think this "group" is actually consisting of conservatives have not really been paying attention.
The CA Freepers constitute, last I looked, officially = 2000+.
I think there's a reason most CA threads have only the "so-called" conservatives posting to each other: The threads are so small in posting count.
I think a number have been subjected to the "group's" classic abusive posting strategies, and refuse to talk about CA issues, thereby leaving the discourse, which should be civil, to those who aren't civil -- these so-called "conservatives" who'd rather see a Democrat in office than a conservative and/or a Republican.
In this thread, their hypocrisies and lies have been identified. Dittos, on other threads.
I've been in other state threads. Differences in opinion do not go on like they do here in the CA threads. There's something else going on with this "group", and they aren't coming clean about it.
The group counts upon "lurkers" assuming this group represents some kind of official "CA Freeper" ideology or line of thinking. The group does not.
As diverse as CA is, it is natural to assume, nay -- project that these threads based on CA issues should contain a huge diversity of opinions.
But as evidence continues to show, only the "correct" version -- that proferred by a group which is obviously not conservative -- is permitted, and no official moderation is involved. Most do not post on these threads and because of the ugliness constantly and routinely delivered in post by those claiming to be conservative -- to anyone with any difference in thought from the group's "lockstep" opinions.
CA has got an election coming up. It is wrong to continue to allow this "group" to hijack discussions. But the group is clever. I'll give them that. But just so clever, they continue to expose themselves.
They expose themselves when given plenty of room to clap each other on the back, and they are exposed when CA posters post their thoughts in difference to the "group's."
I don't know what the answer is to resolving this matter.
But I see it begun. :) And this is good.