Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question

cnsnews.com ^ | 1/13/05 | By Marc Morano and Randy Hall

[river rat]

"One ticket punching tour, then running for political office."

It's sure beginning to look like that....

Such a shame --- I had more confidence in our Officer Corps to prevent crap like this in our Corps...

Semper Fi

[stephenjohnbanker]

If you run on your war record, and use it to castigate the present administration, you damn well better be able to back it up!

[Bommer]

Lets NOT go there, because the fact is, there are probably thousands of honorable, good men who's PH or other medal could be called into question.

You forget, Murtha is not honorable! Once ANYONE attacks his fellow brother in arms, no matter what his heroics; no matter what his medals, he looses all rights to that brotherhood of men! He is fair game, and if found to be a liar like John Kerry, then he needs to be exposed and forced to prove he earned the medals. Otherwise they have no meaning!

[stephenjohnbanker]

My dad suffered all his life from wounds he recieved during WW2, and he got 2 purple hearts. The way these cretins obtained their awards is beginning to diminish the significance of the honor. I say make him prove it!

[stephenjohnbanker]

BTTT

[Wristpin]

A May 12, 2002, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article reported that "Marine Corps casualty records show that Murtha was injured in 'hostile' actions near Danang, Vietnam, on March 22, 1967 and May 7, 1967. In the first incident, his right cheek was lacerated, and in the second he was lacerated above his left eye. Neither injury required evacuation."

[Eighth Square]

Amen!

[stephenjohnbanker]

Thanks Wristpin. My dad was a Navy corpman. He really got nailed at Peleliu.

[gondramB]

"I think this approach will backfire. Best to deal with Murtha in the present, not the past."


But it is so predictable. Criticize whichever adminstration is in power and prepare for an effort to dig up dirt.

It would be better for conservatives if this could stop because liberal voters are much more tolerent of dirt (or alledged dirt).

[jveritas]

Too bad the "Move on FReepers" don't have a clue!

There are no Move on Freeper. We want to expose Murtha treason to the whole nation, and he is doing a good job exposing it himself. However going after his military record is going to change the debate and generate sympathy toward him, even if it is true that his record is suspect. I heard on Foxnews the Marine who blasted Murtha and Jim Moran in a townhall meeting, it was great, that is what we need to expose these traitors and defeat them and not debating whether Murtha deserved his medals 35 years ago.

[Wristpin]

The country has 25 million living veterans who know how the system works. This isn't just political, the man is aiding the enemy in his quest to become the superstar of the left.

[RadioCirca1970]

Great point Kelly, any USMC vet would be proud to show his record. BTW What's the harm in asking him about the three different stories? That's the issue, not the wounds per se, but his varying explanations that are key.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for your excellent response. This issue should be left up to Marines like yourself, who served honorably. Marines, who would sign the 180 with a moment's hesitation. The rest of us should stay out of this Marine situation.

Your excellent response is copied here:

""Is this a wise place to go?"

Absolutely!
These "war heroes" put their "combat service" out in front and rode that reputation into Congress for decades.

Any Marine worth his salt would be proud to have the world see their war record. I AM!

Semper Fi,
Kelly



30 posted on 01/13/2006 12:10:04 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)

[gondramB]

"The country has 25 million living veterans who know how the system works. This isn't just political, the man is aiding the enemy in his quest to become the superstar of the left."

I wasn't debating the ethics of it - I was talking practicality... Most veterans who support increased used of the military overseas are already Republicans and not likely to be influenced.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

A May 12, 2002, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article reported that "Marine Corps casualty records show that Murtha was injured in 'hostile' actions near Danang, Vietnam, on March 22, 1967 and May 7, 1967. In the first incident, his right cheek was lacerated, and in the second he was lacerated above his left eye. Neither injury required evacuation."

Yet on Murtha's web site he claims he received all his Vietnam decorations in 1966 Helluva combat intel guy...got his medals before he was wounded....

[freema]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1558047/posts?page=1

Recap of last week's town meeting but read the whole article...the end of it is about this CNS article.

[TheForceOfOne]

You're only as good as your last statement.

I'm not the same person I was at 20 and neither is Murtha. Judging what one did as apposed to what they're doing now only clouds the issue and obscures the truth.

Ted Kennedy tried to convict Samuel Alito in the court of public opinion based on his past and it didn't work. He should have stuck to the legal issues.

If Murtha uses his past to justify his present arguments then he is fair game to be refuted, just as John Kerry did in '04, otherwise leave it alone.

The Liberals went after the president based on his past when he wasn't making it an issue and it backfired on them.

There is enough statements, appearances, endorsements, etc. in Murtha's present to win the argument. IMHO

[freema]

"The attacks made on Murtha were by fellow Dem Vets or lawmakers, not Pubs. We've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by just sitting back and let this info about Murtha percolate out there. It's a freebie for the Pubs."

It might be a freebie for the Pubs.
Except this isn't just about politics.
There are lives on the line.

[Wristpin]

Yep...very weak. 37 years with the Marines and he cites the BS boot camp award, but doesn't mention a good conduct medal during his enlisted service. From 1967 until his 1990 retirement he only received a DSM for a retirement kiss. Thats 23 years as a reserve officer without mentioning a significant award or deployment. I wonder if the Corps gave him special treatment since he was in DC putting earmarks in defense bills.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"There are no Move on Freepers."

How do you explain this?

There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

WAKEUP AMERICA!

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3 (1868)

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress,
or elector of President and Vice President,
or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States,
or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath,
as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States,
or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer
of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same,

or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html

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The FBI has proof of his giving aid and comfort to the enemies

Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files

May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.

(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

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a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,

or with any offense punishable by death,

may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS

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904. ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY

Any person who--

(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or

(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death
or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.

http://www.military-network.com/main_ucmj/SUBCHAPTERX.html#904.104

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Why are the "Move On FReepers" so careful NOT to attack hanoi kerry
head on and refuse to join in the demand to oust the traitor from the US Senate?

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"Move On FReepers" "swore" klintoon, hitlery, hanoi kerry, sanbdi ber(bur)glar, al bore, jane beno,
would be prosecuted for
pardongate, chinagate, the bribes in upstate NY in the 2000 NY Senate race, waco, etc, etc,
"when" the "time was right".

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"Move On FReepers" : Go back to DU where you came from!