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Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question
cnsnews.com ^ | 1/13/05 | By Marc Morano and Randy Hall

Posted on 01/13/2006 11:53:53 AM PST by paltz

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To: paltz; Admin Moderator
Why is this dumb thread back to breaking news after it was removed from breaking news section. I tell you guys that it is extremely STUPID to go into Murtha service record. He is killing the democrats with his "cut and run" from Iraq and now some two morons at CNS news want to go into his Vietnam record so people will forget about what he is saying on Iraq and instead sympathize with an old man who has been attacked on his military service. Anyone who does not realize this has the political IQ of a 5 years old.
241 posted on 01/13/2006 5:28:39 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: usmcobra

I can't believe you USMC folks are not ripping this POS a new one....hell I am an Army Airplane Driver...and we would piss on the ole mans leg while he was in the shower...


242 posted on 01/13/2006 5:30:23 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: jveritas

Asshole....if you had been in the military...then you would understand....


243 posted on 01/13/2006 5:32:11 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: wingman1
BRONZE STAR MEDAL

3. Criteria: a. The Bronze Star Medal is awarded to any person who, while serving in any capacity in or with the military of the United States after 6 December 1941, distinguished himself or herself by heroic or meritorious achievement or service, not involving participation in aerial flight, while engaged in an action against an enemy of the United States; while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force; or while serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party.

b. Awards may be made for acts of heroism, performed under circumstances described above, which are of lesser degree than required for the award of the Silver Star.

c. Awards may be made to recognize single acts of merit or meritorious service. The required achievement or service while of lesser degree than that required for the award of the Legion of Merit must nevertheless have been meritorious and accomplished with distinction.

http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Awards/BRONZE%20STAR1.html

244 posted on 01/13/2006 5:33:04 PM PST by CDB
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

forgot JOHN 2...or whatever


245 posted on 01/13/2006 5:33:46 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: paltz

Sign the DD Form 180 Murtha, we need proof now since you have been knocking the shit out of our troops serving today...


246 posted on 01/13/2006 5:37:51 PM PST by biff0101
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

I did, I sent him emails and snail mails that would have burnt the paint off a 57 Buick, they all came back rejected.

It seems he doesn't allow anyone outside his district to criticize him at all.


247 posted on 01/13/2006 5:38:31 PM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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To: paltz

This is out of line. Wayyyy out of line. I am not reading this article. This man is defined by what he does today.


248 posted on 01/13/2006 5:43:28 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: usmcobra

IMHO, none.


249 posted on 01/13/2006 5:58:02 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: usmcobra; RVN Airplane Driver
Lyndon B. Johnson, appointed Lt Commander, USN. 7 Months active service in Australia and New Zealand; Bombing observer; awarded Army Silver Star.

John Kerry; 4 months service in country, 5 medals: Silver Star, Bronze Star and 3 Purple Hearts. Allegedly discarded, later reissued?

John Murtha; RVN 66-67 (at least he did a tour); 2 Purple Hearts (requested).

All politicians who proudly served their country in combat. All heroes on paper.
250 posted on 01/13/2006 5:58:34 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Wristpin
Cobra, Do you find it odd that a Colonel retiring after 37 years would a receive an EOT not from the Corps but a much lesser award from the Governor of his state?

ding .... now you get it......padding the old resume... saw it with some Marines in order to get stamped as having commanded a "rifle company" rotate around the company commanders position so they can get the bump to Pentagon ... the Marines are a small outfit, so it's real hard to "fake" stuff..or pad your service record. Everybody knows everybody else's sh#t... It's really like a big dysfunctional family that just loves to kick ass and take names. They don't like anybody making fun of them or their "kin" or the games they play...or the way they play them.

I'll take a bet...$20 that neither one of his Purple Hearts or "V" for valor..er "V for Combat" is worth it's weight in whale sh#t.

I've met Marine officers who are flaming libs but mostly the officers I've been privileged to meet are gentleman, courteous, competitive, honorable, but would be able to field strip an M-1, M-14, M-16 or .45, feed his men before he ate, and be able to find, engage and destroy any enemy of our country....

and THAT'S why I more than want to bust Murtha's a$$.... there are great men who've worn and died with that little old Globe and Anchor, that this turd is dishonoring. He's just like that old fart in Florida who deserted 30 years ago..... an f'ing coward and disgrace to the Corp and the men who've served.

as for the FReepers that "don't want to go there".... don't worry, you won't have to.... just step aside and let somebody else do the heavy lifting. If it turns out he's actually blind from a beer tab injury or got crotch rot or the clap from some mama-san then I guess maybe he can throw his ribbons in the same body of water that Kerry did.....what a bunch of posers.

251 posted on 01/13/2006 6:04:29 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Thanks....


252 posted on 01/13/2006 6:21:02 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: Dick Vomer
There is nothing worse in the Corps then an officer that screws over the troops for his own benefit or to cover his rear end.

Muthra is doing both on a much grander scale, every service man or woman in Iraq and Afghanistan is at risk because of Muthra's words, anything we do to prevent him from further harming the mission he sent them on is justified.
253 posted on 01/13/2006 6:36:06 PM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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To: GSWarrior

There should be some cartoons done with purple heart bandaids on Murtha's face. No Republican should mention it and should denounce anyone who points it out - just for the record. : )


254 posted on 01/13/2006 6:50:25 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Just hold your tongue.


255 posted on 01/13/2006 7:02:22 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: paltz

The past, is the past. But it never hurts to make him believe he simply went one step too far and put his hero status in question. Scare the guy and see what kinds of blubbering start pouring out. Might surprise everyone. Might spill his guts.


256 posted on 01/13/2006 7:02:31 PM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: dirtboy
" I think this approach will backfire. Best to deal with Murtha in the present, not the past."

Yes.....now regarding his plan to re-invade Iraq if things go badly: what is his estimate of how many casualties we would take in a re-invasion??????

257 posted on 01/13/2006 7:10:31 PM PST by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: paltz

When a person bases something of value (career, marriage, etc) on a lie, then everything that comes to him is pretty much worthless. We know what we need to know. He can't be trusted.


258 posted on 01/13/2006 7:14:32 PM PST by Just Lori (The road to hell is paved by liberals.)
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To: dirtboy
"I think this approach will backfire. Best to deal with Murtha in the present, not the past."

I disagree ---
The Democrats have foisted Murtha and his "heroic past" in out faces as his "blood earned right" to criticize the war and the President......
How many times have you heard that Murtha was a "hero" and deserved respect....at the SAME time as he is behaving like a traitor and under suspicion by the ethics committee?
Shades of the phony, lying, Kerry --- and his charges against our warriors.....

Just like Kerry -- Murtha can end the questioning by simply releasing his DD214 with Medical Records...

That is the ONLY way to end the questioning.....
Please note that Kerry has still failed to fully release his records, too.....

Another point -- Murtha, like Kerry -- ran on his military record..... He made a freaking career of his "military service", his sacrifice recognized by his TWO Purple Hearts........
I don't think it's asking much of a "civil servant" who has sucked at the public tit all these DECADES to prove his primary running claim.....

Murtha, his record, his behavior, his statements and his whole "being" is beginning to smell VERY bad....

Semper Fi

259 posted on 01/13/2006 7:19:18 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Wuli

An interesting pattern, if it's true.


260 posted on 01/13/2006 7:21:20 PM PST by skr ("That book [Bible], sir, is the rock on which our republic rests."--Andrew Jackson)
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