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DNA Testing Proves Executed Va. Prisoner's Guilt
FOXNews.com ^ | Jan 13, 2006 | AP

Posted on 01/13/2006 8:00:25 AM PST by wouldntbprudent

RICHMOND, Va. — Death penalty opponents said new DNA tests confirming the guilt of a murderer who was put to death in Virginia while still proclaiming his innocence will do nothing to end their fight to abolish capital punishment.

The test results, announced Thursday by Gov. Mark R. Warner, prove Roger Keith Coleman was guilty of the 1981 rape and murder of his sister-in-law, putting an end to a debate over his guilt that has raged since he was executed in 1992

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dna; forensics; markwarner; rogercoleman
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1 posted on 01/13/2006 8:00:27 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent

I was surpised that this story made the front cover of the Washington ComPost today.


2 posted on 01/13/2006 8:01:20 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: wouldntbprudent
Death penalty opponents said new DNA tests confirming the guilt of a murderer who was put to death in Virginia while still proclaiming his innocence will do nothing to end their fight to abolish capital punishment.

In other words, "We don't care what the facts are."

3 posted on 01/13/2006 8:02:35 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: wouldntbprudent

Amazing how disappointed some people are over this news. They wanted an innocent man executed to further their cause, I guess.

I caught the NPR report of this last night. There was some crow being consumed by people who believed this man was really innocent.


4 posted on 01/13/2006 8:03:53 AM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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To: wouldntbprudent
Death penalty opponents said new DNA tests confirming the guilt of a murderer who was put to death in Virginia while still proclaiming his innocence will do nothing to end their fight to abolish capital punishment.

Evidence never means a thing to liberals.

5 posted on 01/13/2006 8:04:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

I think it was FOX News Channel that reported that so far, forensic evidence
has yet to clear an executed convict...
(but I won't be suprised when that happens...there are crooked/incompetent
forsensic scientists out there)


6 posted on 01/13/2006 8:05:47 AM PST by VOA
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To: Brilliant

Facts NEVER factor in to a lib's policy position.


7 posted on 01/13/2006 8:06:06 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent

Apparently, murderers on death row are willing to lie. Amazing, isn't it?


8 posted on 01/13/2006 8:06:24 AM PST by tomahawk
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"I'm innocent, I tell 'ya!" "I was framed, see."


9 posted on 01/13/2006 8:08:40 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Brilliant

While many have to eat crow based on their proclamations that an innocent man was executed and the fact that the DNA tests prove he was guilty as sin, keep this in mind:

Many people are opposed to capital punishment not on the basis that innocent people may be executed, but simply on the basis that the taking of human life is wrong, particularly when the person is contained and no longer a danger to society. So many will continue their fight to abolish capital punishment on moral grounds, though they will not have this case to point to as a reason to ban capital punishment. They will still have a moral argument, though.


10 posted on 01/13/2006 8:10:45 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: Brilliant
"We don't care what the facts are."

Our local talk show Quinn & Rose put it very well when it stated 'Liberalism is a worldview that tries to make reality conform to their worldview. Conservatism is a worldview based on reality.'

11 posted on 01/13/2006 8:11:18 AM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Fighting Truth, Justice and the American Way; anti-Superman


12 posted on 01/13/2006 8:12:16 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Vigilanteman
'Liberalism is a worldview that tries to make reality conform to their worldview. Conservatism is a worldview based on reality.'

Hmmm....that would make a good tagline....

13 posted on 01/13/2006 8:12:46 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Meadows Place, TX-"Tom DeLay Country")
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To: wouldntbprudent
The test results, announced Thursday by Gov. Mark R. Warner, prove Roger Keith Coleman was guilty of the 1981 rape and murder of his sister-in-law, putting an end to a debate over his guilt that has raged since he was executed in 1992

Don't confuse me with the facts. Please go away.

I only want to know if the courts had made a mistake.

[translation of liberal rant]

14 posted on 01/13/2006 8:15:33 AM PST by george wythe
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To: eraser2005

The interesting thing is that they try to force their moral beliefs on the rest of us, and yet many of them reject the existence of God. If you reject the existence of God, then where does morality come from? And if you accept the existence of God, then how do you get around the fact that the Bible itself provides for the death penalty?


15 posted on 01/13/2006 8:16:45 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: eraser2005
Many people are opposed to capital punishment not on the basis that innocent people may be executed, but simply on the basis that the taking of human life is wrong, particularly when the person is contained and no longer a danger to society. So many will continue their fight to abolish capital punishment on moral grounds, though they will not have this case to point to as a reason to ban capital punishment. They will still have a moral argument, though.

Good point. But just last night I saw Mehmet Ali Agca (the Turk who murdered a journalist and nearly killed Pope JPII) released from prison. He's not "contained" anymore, he's now officially free to murder again if he wants to.

16 posted on 01/13/2006 8:26:07 AM PST by jpl
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To: eraser2005
Many people are opposed to capital punishment not on the basis that innocent people may be executed, but simply on the basis that the taking of human life is wrong, particularly when the person is contained and no longer a danger to society.

What these people do not realize (or are ignoring) is that the "contained" murderer can excape (it happens), or can be pardoned (it happens), or can be released "on humanitarian grounds" (it happens). Just because somebody is in jail for life does not mean that they will be staying there. There is always a chance that they will be free - unless they are executed. Execution is the only way to be certain that they are never released on society again.

17 posted on 01/13/2006 8:33:34 AM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Meanwhile, over at PsychoticUnderground.com, only the chirping of crickets...


18 posted on 01/13/2006 8:34:21 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Brilliant

Good point - personally I take the approach that it is too difficult for myself, fallible as I am, to decide whether death or destruction referred to in many biblical verses on capital punishment mean literal death or spiritual death. There are many verses which can support capital punishment, but I personally would place the 6th commandment above them. Some translations say kill, some say murder. I just think that the killing of any person, if it can be avoided, is wrong. Now the killing of someone to *prevent* a death, such as in WWII, can be necessary, though it still isn't good...


19 posted on 01/13/2006 8:49:40 AM PST by eraser2005
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I would have more respect for those opposing the death penalty if they'd play by the rules. If they want to abolish the death penalty, then I think they have two alternatives: 1) go to the legislature and get it to abolish the death penalty, or 2) amend the Constitution.

They are trying to stop the death penalty thru judicial fiat, which is a violation of the Constitution and a ursurpation of the role of the Executive and the Legislature, as well as a power grab directed against the people.

The Constitution clearly allows for the death penalty in several places. We've had the death penalty in this country for 230 years, and the Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld death penalties. It would be an abuse of power for them to pack the Court with liberal extremists for the purpose of dictating an edict banning the death penalty.


20 posted on 01/13/2006 9:13:25 AM PST by Brilliant
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