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Scientists set to create human-rabbit hybrid
Scotsman ^ | January 12, 2006 | Ian Johnston

Posted on 01/13/2006 6:05:59 AM PST by NYer

BRITISH scientists are planning to create human-rabbit hybrid embryos to speed up research into the causes of inherited conditions such as motor neurone disease and Parkinson's.

The controversial work, which involves placing the nucleus of a human cell inside a rabbit egg, is rejected as immoral by churches and anti-cloning campaigners. One of the key ethical problems is whether the hybrid embryo should be treated legally as a human or an animal.

Edinburgh University's Professor Ian Wilmut - who created Dolly the Sheep - and colleagues in London believe the hybrids will help them circumvent a shortage of human eggs which is hampering research.

The procedure has already been carried out with some success by two groups of scientists in China and Mr Wilmut is preparing to write to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA) for permission to test it here.

Professor Wilmut told The Scotsman the results of Chinese research appeared to show that the hybrid embryos could be used to study human diseases.

"What we would be doing is using an unusual method to produce a human embryo which could be used to study very unpleasant diseases for which there isn't a treatment," he said yesterday.

"In effect what we'd do is mimic the disease in the young person who, some unknown number of years in the future, would develop the disease. It gives a way to study the development of the disease which you could not do in any other way."

The embryos would only be about 200 cells and would not be allowed to develop for longer than 14 days or be implanted into a woman's womb.

However, the Church of Scotland said the proposal violated the distinction between humans, who were "created in God's image", and animals, who were not.

The HFEA, which governs this field of research, said yesterday any such work would have to be licensed, but did not rule it out.

Although made of rabbit-cell material, the embryos would be controlled by human DNA.

Prof Wilmut said he believed a hybrid embryo should be treated as human by the HFEA. Asked about the moral objections of church groups and others, the scientist said: "A critical element in this is to recognise we would only be working at a very early stage with a maximum of 200 cells.

"I wouldn't think of a human embryo at that stage as being a person."

His colleague, Professor Chris Shaw, from King's College London, said the lack of human eggs meant they had to consider an alternative source.

"The fertility of rabbits is legendary. There may be opportunities to use human cells for nuclear transfer to rabbit oocytes [eggs]. Legally, the position is not clear, but that's something we'd like to discuss with the HFEA," he said.

Experiments using human DNA and rabbit eggs have already been conducted in China.

Dr Huizhen Sheng, of Shanghai Second Medical University, said in a paper two years ago that she had created more than 100 embryos by fusing human skin cells with rabbit eggs whose nuclei had been removed.

The embryos are said to have survived to the blastocyst stage - a ball of no more than about 60 cells the size of a pinhead.

The disgraced South Korean scientist, Professor Woo-Suk Hwang, had about 2,000 human eggs to work with and obtained fresh eggs from women who were willing, or persuaded, to donate them, including female members of his staff, in breach of guidelines.

To collect that many eggs in the UK might take ten years, said Prof Shaw, and despite his huge supply of eggs, Prof Hwang failed to derive any stem-cell lines from them.

"Faced with that challenge, we have to think of alternatives," Prof Shaw said.

Professor Alison Murdoch, from Newcastle University, whose team produced Britain's first cloned human embryos, said the proposal exposed a "grey area" of the law.

She said: "You have to ask the question, 'If you take a human nucleus and put it in a rabbit egg, is it a human embryo?'"

But she added: "Is there any harm in a human embryonic stem-cell line made from a rabbit egg?"

The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act, which sets out the rules for conducting research on human eggs, sperm and embryos, is being reviewed by the government. Dr Chris O'Toole, head of research regulation at the HFEA, said: "The issue of mixing human and animal material is complex.

"The HFEA looked at this issue last September and concluded that any research that involves putting a human cell's nucleus into an animal egg would require a licence from the HFEA."

Dr Donald Bruce, of the Church of Scotland's Society, Religion and Technology project, said the Kirk's General Assembly had taken a position on the creation of hybrid embryos and he had thought it was illegal.

"In historic Christian tradition, humans are made uniquely in God's image. The mixture of human and animal tissue would breach the distinction which Christian tradition holds between humans and animals," he said, quoting from a document on the church's position.

Patrick Cusworth, director of the Movement Against The Cloning of Humans, said: "I don't think there's any scientific validity in embryonic stem-cell research these days and research upon embryo 'chimeras' would not only jeopardise the humanity and dignity of the tiny human being, but also hold out a false mirage of hope to some very vulnerable patients."

But Dr Ainsley Newson, a medical ethicist, said that the public's reaction to the proposal would largely be framed by their views on early-stage embryos.

"Obviously we need to be careful about species boundaries, but we are not talking about creating a hybrid animal," she said.

"To me, it seems a very sensible solution to the problem of the shortage of embryos for research on diseases."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: clone; cloning; cloningamp; dna; dolly; embryoresearch; ppl; roslin; sheep; stemcellresearch; stemcells
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To: MNJohnnie

Funny stuff ping


21 posted on 01/13/2006 6:19:30 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: NYer

.... and a new SciFi Channel '2 hr made for tv move' is born


22 posted on 01/13/2006 6:19:35 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: NYer

Will it swim? Jimmy Carter's worst nightmare.


23 posted on 01/13/2006 6:21:51 AM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: NYer

24 posted on 01/13/2006 6:22:51 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: NYer

You really see this as 'evil'?


25 posted on 01/13/2006 6:23:14 AM PST by sandbar (when)
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To: billorites

Does she have an allergy to those strawberries or did she get beat before this photo. Jeez


26 posted on 01/13/2006 6:24:42 AM PST by sandbar (when)
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To: NYer

These people who do such things are not evil, really. They are just amoral. Right and wrong don't matter at all in their judgement of things. So they wind up doing evil things with no more reflection than you or I would use when turning on a light switch.

The only time they consider the moral implications of things is when they anticipate having to defend themselves against the "raving nutters", who are the people who have some shred of human decency left, for one reason or another.

I know people like this. They are very intelligent. They are fascinated by their work, love their children, and make a very good living. But they go down to the lab and do evil things, day after day. But they don't consider themselves evil. They consider themselves good.


27 posted on 01/13/2006 6:29:54 AM PST by gridlock (It's not really a Circus until Teddy Kennedy steps out of the Clown Car...)
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To: r9etb

"Actually, it's stuff like this (not to mention the glow-in-the-dark Taiwanese pigs) that destroys any claim that ID is not "scientific."

That said, I think what we're seeing here is something much different, in the realm of "can vs. should.""


I do not hear the evolutionary fittest rejecting the playing 'god' with the human genes. So this "ID" business appears to be about to whom "ID" will be assigned.


28 posted on 01/13/2006 6:37:13 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: NYer

And once done the new creature's prime objective will be to set out and settle the score with Jimmah.


29 posted on 01/13/2006 7:02:56 AM PST by rod1
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To: NYer
They're still making a human embryo, despite the claim of using rabbit egg material. In time, the rabbits extranuclear protiens are degraded naturally replaced with human proteins...making a embryo composed of "complete" human cells. The efficiency of that natural process however, may be less than perfect.
30 posted on 01/13/2006 7:58:08 AM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: NYer
Prof Wilmut said he believed a hybrid embryo should be treated as human by the HFEA. Asked about the moral objections of church groups and others, the scientist said: "A critical element in this is to recognise we would only be working at a very early stage with a maximum of 200 cells.

"I wouldn't think of a human embryo at that stage as being a person."

Demonstrating why the decision to perform these experiments is beyond the competence of scientists. Scientists have little or no proper training in ethics, philosophy, or theology.

The decision to perform these experiments is appalling.

31 posted on 01/13/2006 8:07:19 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: NYer

A rabbit-human hybrid, eh?

Makes one wonder what Jimmuh Carter did with that rabbit - it begins to sound as though he may have attacked it with something other than his canoe paddle.


32 posted on 01/13/2006 8:19:22 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: NYer

Good Grief!!!! Paging Dr. Moreau, paging Dr. Moreau.


33 posted on 01/13/2006 8:19:26 AM PST by RipSawyer (Acceptance of irrational thinking is expanding exponentiallly.)
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To: sandbar

That reddish flush is just a sex flush.

On the other hand, it could be a Photoshop creation, or an artifact of lighting and film spectral curve response to the lighting.


34 posted on 01/13/2006 8:23:43 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru

35 posted on 01/13/2006 8:26:45 AM PST by null and void (Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. - Asimov)
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To: NYer

I suppose if they ever went the whole way and created an in vitro produced Humbit(?)or Rabman (?) who had the disease to be studied, he could hop down to the doctor's office with ease.


36 posted on 01/13/2006 8:39:38 AM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill

Is the Humbit related to the Humbugger?

Perhaps we should refer this question to Bwarney Frank?


37 posted on 01/13/2006 8:44:39 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: NYer

Will the real Daddy Rabbit please stand up.. Maybe just in time for Easter...


38 posted on 01/13/2006 8:47:48 AM PST by exmoor
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To: wildbill

Humbit? Rabman? Better copyright those terms now- ya never know..........


39 posted on 01/13/2006 9:06:25 AM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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To: NYer
Is it wrong for me to find this article erotic?
40 posted on 01/13/2006 9:07:52 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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