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Britain 'like the inside of a toilet', said Hamza
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | January 13, 2006 | By Duncan Gardham

Posted on 01/12/2006 7:16:11 PM PST by aculeus

Abu Hamza, the Muslim preacher, was heard calling for the "blood and destruction" of non-believers at the Old Bailey yesterday and describing Britain as a country "like the inside of a toilet".

The jury at his trial on nine counts of soliciting to murder, four counts of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour and two further counts of possessing abusive recordings with a view to distribution and possession of a document useful to preparing terrorism heard the former imam of Finsbury Park, north London, speak for the first time in two videos made by his followers.

In the recordings, each more than two hours long, Hamza was also heard accusing the Prime Minister of killing Muslim children.

The first video, called the "Holy Way to Khilafa" (Muslim nationhood), showed Hamza seated at a table with a banner which read "Al-Jihad" during a meeting in Whitechapel, east London, in 1997 or 1998.

He told the unseen audience that living in Britain was like the "inside of a toilet" and added: "We are all under the heavy boots of the kufr (unbeliever)."

"This is why they talk of the Khilafa now," he added.

"Some talk of it as the drug which they need to vent themselves, others they talk about it as the only solution."

Quoting the prophet Mohammed he added: "The blood and destruction is the destruction upon you kaffirs."

He said democracy was crumbling and laid out a two-stage plan to replace it with a Muslim nation.

The first he said meant "bleed them from their sides, their heads, their economy, everything until they surrender."

The preacher went on: "Like you imagine you have only one small knife and you have a big animal in the front of you, the size of the knife you can't slaughter him with this.

"You have to stab him here and there until he bleeds to death, until he die, then you cut his meat the way you like it or leave it for the maggots."

After that he claimed: "The people who called you terrorist before, they will call you khalifas (Muslim rulers) and the scholars who used to call you khawarij (rebels against Islam) yesterday, they will write poems about you."

The second stage involved taking control of the whole world, he added.

"Don't be a shield for the kufr because we will get you," he added. "Even if you are not a target and you are in the target area. If you fear them, you should fear Allah more. It's a bloody way."

Hamza told his followers they would eventually see a Muslim ruler in the White House and added: "The whole earth, it will be for Muslims, this is a promise from Allah.

"Go and fight, light and heavy, rich and poor, sick and healthy," he told his followers and identified targets as every court, interest-charging banks, video shops which sell "naked" videos and brothels.

"You have to bleed the enemy, whether you work alone, you work with a group or you work with your own family, work has to be done.

"Tease them, make them afraid, show their humiliation." Hamza added: "Anybody he sees a deficiency and an enemy of Islam, just go and kill him."

Laughing when a woman asked him whether she could join the holy war, Hamza told her to tell her children, if they were aged 10 or 12, to "go with their father for training . . . make sure he shows them videos about Jihad ideas, bring them up for Jihad."

In the second video, filmed in September 1999, Hamza described Britain as a kaffir (unbeliever) country which does not apply Shariah law and is therefore at war and accused Tony Blair of killing "many of our children".

He added: "Most of them are pagans; preachers have become homosexuals; churches have become places of dancing, iniquity, business, black magic, you name it."

The case continues.


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To: Alouette
Hi-Dee Hoo. LOL! :D
41 posted on 01/12/2006 8:31:39 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Alouette; EveningStar

Hamza as Mr. Hankey? Say it aint so!


42 posted on 01/12/2006 8:33:20 PM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: Alouette

LOL


43 posted on 01/12/2006 8:37:43 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

AMEN!
They are more trouble then they are worth!
And what would they know about toilets anyway? They still squat in the dirt and use their hands!
Who's forcing them to live in Britain if it's so terrible?
This is a mentally diseased cult- obsessed with death and blood. If ANYONE else talked like this, they would be recognized as pathologically ill.


44 posted on 01/12/2006 8:41:11 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: sauropod

mark


45 posted on 01/12/2006 8:49:22 PM PST by sauropod ("Here Lies Joe Biden, Buried Under His Own Words.")
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To: Alouette

If that is so, then Abu Mamzer is the shi'ite at the bottom of the bowl.


46 posted on 01/12/2006 8:57:39 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Alouette
abuhanky

ROTFLMBO

47 posted on 01/12/2006 9:30:41 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: EveningStar; Alouette

Oooh - Mr. Hanky got married!


48 posted on 01/12/2006 9:32:52 PM PST by Spyder
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To: aculeus

Here's hoping the jury locks the guy up and throws away the key.


49 posted on 01/12/2006 9:34:25 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Alouette; EveningStar

ROTFL! ;-D


50 posted on 01/12/2006 9:53:05 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: aculeus
The first he said meant "bleed them from their sides, their heads, their economy, everything until they surrender."
The preacher went on: "Like you imagine you have only one small knife and you have a big animal in the front of you, the size of the knife you can't slaughter him with this."

Bring your little knife, maggot. This is a gunfight.

51 posted on 01/12/2006 11:23:26 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: aculeus

It seems to me a wonderful example of "diversity" that we all must celebrate. /sarcasm


52 posted on 01/13/2006 1:02:53 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: alloysteel
re :If Britain is such a pit and so utterly offensive to the senses of this "learned" cleric, he is perfectly within his rights to depart the premises forthwith and be no more troubled by what he sees as daily iniquities, leaving the benighted Britons to their fate.

Too right, he wasn't above claiming Social Security (living of British taxpayers)

53 posted on 01/13/2006 3:05:59 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: aculeus

If britain is so terrible, why are muslims fleeing their own hell hole failed countries and flocking to the west?


54 posted on 01/13/2006 3:29:52 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: Alouette

Hidey-allah-akbar!


55 posted on 01/13/2006 5:35:54 AM PST by BJClinton (Mr. August)
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To: Ken522
Where there is wealth and knowledge there too they will thrive. Economics has NOTHING to do wit it.
56 posted on 01/13/2006 6:11:08 AM PST by Camel Joe (WANTED: Hot Tar and Feathers... I've Got a Rail)
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To: aculeus

"He said democracy was crumbling and laid out a two-stage plan to replace it with a Muslim nation."

Got any other old news? France was first, and Britain will soon follow. What scares me is that nearly 50% of the US government is ready to pee their pants and hand over the free world to anyone who menaces them in the least...

As I read this article, I'm reminded of the delusional psychosis of the Nazi party. The style and "prose" of the author gives us an insight into his utter disconnect from rationality. Picture this: an American (or European) writes a piece which demands the immediate, bloody slaughter of the entire Muslim race. This piece argues the virtues of torturing to death the unclean Muslim heathens, and promises a place in heaven for those who murder Muslim men, women, and children. The writer's point is this: Hey, they don't believe in (our) God, so let's kill them, burn their cities, and enslave anyone left alive. It's God's will, so let's go forth and destroy.

Now picture the world reaction to this fictional piece being printed in every (or ANY) major US newspaper.

Militant Islam is the language of the craziest bunch of psychopaths to walk the earth since WWII. Any thinking person on the planet inherently knows this, which is one of the reasons why statements like Hamza's get barely a whisper in the press.


57 posted on 01/13/2006 7:10:00 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: Echo Talon
The inside of a toilet is a step up from Islam.
58 posted on 01/13/2006 6:31:33 PM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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