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Lying and Dying
Watching a once-great party fall.
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| January 12, 2006
| Michael Novak
Posted on 01/12/2006 2:59:43 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The issue is and will always be about the selfishness and callousness of a mechanical elimination of growing tissue destined to be a brand new human being, perfect or flawed, without regard to the damage done to the procsess itself; when a woman gets pregnant, the world itself is a little bit pregnant with the expectation of biological success and this is not a small thing, for the survival of any species depends upon the survival of its individual members.
Certainly, with current population numbers, individual births seem like grains of sand upon a vast beach but it takes little imagination to see a future rocky shore bereft of fineness and smooth form in place of that, all jagged and forlorn.
It was better, sociologically and traumatically, when it was a back alley secret.
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posted on
01/12/2006 4:54:06 PM PST
by
Old Professer
(Fix the problem, not the blame!)
To: horse_doc
The Abortion issue is secondary to their embracing Roosevelt's socialism lite. You are exactly right!
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posted on
01/12/2006 5:11:16 PM PST
by
kublia khan
(Absolute war brings total victory)
To: kublia khan
I wouldn't say that the abortion position is secondary to
socialist positions, but that they are cut from the same cloth. In both cases, they've used deception and dishonesty to advance their policy agenda, not relying on adherence to democratic ideals in an honest process as a means of ensuring legitimacy of governance, but relying on features of our democratic institutions and tactical maneuver, using institutions as tactical tools to help subvert legitimacy, while delaying and denying electoral tests of the public sentiment, and using radical leftist judges to impose minority policies on the majority. It has taken fifty years to overcome. The question now, really, is what happens looking forward as popular awareness builds that the logjam of fifty years of policy error, in spite of half a century of frenetic mortaring, is leaking badly from its foundations.
Of course, in spite of what the leftists believe, this current result was and is inevitable for no other reason than demographics. It is simply bad politics, on the basis of future numbers, to enable eliminating entire generations of your own most likely future supporters. This, of course, is also why after decades of liberal Democratic control of government we have no control over our borders: When you've enabled aborting entire crops of your own future voters, you have to try to import new ones who will replace them...
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:39:29 PM PST
by
Sense
To: Sense
"It is simply bad politics, on the basis of future numbers, to enable eliminating entire generations of your own most likely future supporters"
I wonder if anyone has ever studied the relationship between upward wage pressure and abortion. You have to think that eliminating that many potential employees would cause some fluctuations in the labor market.
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posted on
01/12/2006 8:02:44 PM PST
by
kublia khan
(Absolute war brings total victory)
To: horse_doc
They hate their own culture. It is just that simple.They hate their culture, and they mix it with a strong double-shot of guilt.
But then we're stuck with one-party rule - by RINO's and their internationalist sycophants.
And what fun is that? ;-D
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posted on
01/12/2006 8:47:25 PM PST
by
FierceDraka
("Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." - Capt. Mal Reynolds)
To: LS
Yep. I guess the more interesting question, then, would be WHY do they (did they) hate their own culture? What philosophical/logical progression leads you to think, "I suck."Yeah! No s**t!
I LOVE American culture. It's vibrant, irreverant, infectuous, and most of all, ALIVE. Contrast that with the dying cultures our cousins in over in Old Europe are failing to uphold.
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posted on
01/12/2006 8:52:31 PM PST
by
FierceDraka
("Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." - Capt. Mal Reynolds)
To: neverdem
It is painful to watch the ruin of a great party. A great party has come to this. It's not that painful for us gen-xers who never knew a Democrat party that was not vindictive and anti-American.
To: Tom Bombadil
The pompous rhetorical indignation of Kennedy... Pompous, rhetorical and pathetic are the proper adjectives for someone who got kicked out of Harvard for cheating and graduated last in his class at law school. His lectures to Alito are a joke.
Good one...
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posted on
01/12/2006 9:02:58 PM PST
by
GOPJ
(A. Cub reporters acting as stenographers for a manipulative top FBI agent? Q. What is Watergate?)
To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
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posted on
01/12/2006 9:55:11 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: neverdem
It is painful to watch the ruin of a great party. A great party has come to this.The Democratic Party, historically, has *always* been on the wrong (immoral) side. They were the champions of slavery (Dred Scott), racial segregation (Plessy v. Ferguson), and abortion on demand (Roe v. Wade). As my parentehtical appendices demonstrate, they likewise *always* relied on the US Supreme Court to "legalize" their morally abhorrent platforms.
For anyone to aver that the Democratic Party has ever been anything more than an American scandal, throughout it's history, betrays a stunning lack of knowledge about both the history of our nation, and of that "Party" in particular...
the infowarrior
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posted on
01/12/2006 11:21:40 PM PST
by
infowarrior
(TANSTAAFL)
To: FierceDraka
Recently, (as a former rocker) I've gotten into reading bios of the rock stars of teh 1970s. I finished a Hendrix bio that was amazing (I used some of the comments in my new book). JH was VERY pro-Vietnam War until after 1970. Then there is a book on Frank Zappa. As weird as he was, he was in some ways very conservative: his home arranements were in some ways quite traditional (his wife "raised" the children) and he didn't do drugs. He viewed his social commentary as being equally directed at EVERYONE, which burned the butts of the libs, whom he disliked as much as Nixon. He hated the radical feminists.
In short, it's only an America that would permit a Zappa, or a "Team America."
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posted on
01/13/2006 2:47:21 AM PST
by
LS
To: speedy
At Bud's Country Lounge in Hyannis, when after snorting a line the size of a highway center line and banging his head on the bar, he heroically took to the road and drove himself home.
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posted on
01/13/2006 2:56:34 AM PST
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: ghost of nixon
The scariest thing to contemplate is the probability that, if Chappaquidick had never happened, Kennedy would have been elected President in 1976.
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posted on
01/13/2006 3:39:36 AM PST
by
jalisco555
("The right to bear weapons is the right to be free." A. E. Van Vogt)
To: GunsareOK
Actually, one year and one month - June of '68 to July of '69. I remember it was right around the time of the moon landing.
To: LS
"I finished a Hendrix bio that was amazing (I used some of the comments in my new book). JH was VERY pro-Vietnam War until after 1970."
Actually, Jimi Hendrix wasn't ANYthing after 1970. :(
To: speedy
When was Ted Kennedy ever a heroic figure?He is a hero to nephew Skakel. Killed a woman and got away with it.
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posted on
01/13/2006 10:22:42 AM PST
by
N. Theknow
(Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
To: speedy
When were Democrats a "great party? Slavery? Jim Crow? Tammany Hall? Keeping us out of WWI? Getting us out of the Great Depression? Preparing for WWII? The Cold War? The Welfare State? Roe v Wade? Stopping terrorism? MSM lies? When?
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posted on
01/13/2006 11:07:27 AM PST
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
To: linda_22003
Sorry, I meant 1969. His comments were made in early 1969.
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posted on
01/13/2006 12:00:14 PM PST
by
LS
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