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To: StarCMC

The problem with Gitmo is the lack of transparency and the lack of judicial control, not the treatment of the prisoners. And I was for the war against mass-slaughterer Saddam Hussein, unlike 80% of my fellow-citizens.


15 posted on 01/12/2006 1:41:47 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus

Glad to hear at least some Germans still have some political sense and don't want to kiss Saddam's rear end!


18 posted on 01/12/2006 1:45:38 PM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: Michael81Dus
The problem with Gitmo is the lack of transparency

There has been plenty of transparency - way more than there should have been, IMHO, when dealing with an ongoing war against terrorism.

Your difficulty in ascertaining the transparency is not America's fault.

20 posted on 01/12/2006 1:46:55 PM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Michael81Dus

There is too much transparency.
The terrorists there try every day to hurt, maim, or kill the U.S. soldiers watching them.
And the terrorists know how to game the press.
Gitmo is far from being a 'torture zone'.

But, you know what the terrorists feared above all else upon capture?
They feared torture, they see any other treatment as a sign of weakness on our part.
They see kindness as weakness.


26 posted on 01/12/2006 1:52:03 PM PST by Darksheare (Beware the waddling Penguin Invaders from Ursa Minor!)
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To: Michael81Dus
lack of transparency and the lack of judicial control,

Oh grasshopper, you have much to learn. Have you ever heard of OPSEC?? (Operational security)

32 posted on 01/12/2006 1:53:53 PM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Michael81Dus

Gitmo is a military affair and not a civilian one.


48 posted on 01/12/2006 2:04:21 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Democrats value the privacy of terrorists higher than the lives of Americans.)
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To: Michael81Dus; StarCMC; La Enchiladita
The problem I have with your criticism is that you have no idea what you are talking about. You are judging Gitmo, and what we are doing there, without ever setting foot on the place and getting first-hand knowledge of what you are seemingly concerned about. When you have spent time there with our hard-working military personnel who are having to deal with these terrorists--or potential terrorists--every day, then you can come back here and criticise our decision to lock them up rather than take a chance on our being attacked again like we were on 9-11. I have no respect for people who talk before having the facts.
50 posted on 01/12/2006 2:05:53 PM PST by luvie (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.-BD)
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To: Michael81Dus

The LAST thing we need is judicial control over anything. let alone Gitmo. Our judges think they are an exceptional class of superior beings, sent to guide us to the right results [as they see them], no matter what WE think, ignoring the fact that most of them get on the bench by nuzzling some ward heelers' buttocks. Don't like a law? Judges ignore them. Don't believe in punishment? Sentence a child rapist to 60 days so HE can get therapy. Feel constrained by the folks that wrote the Constitution? Make it a "living document" that only "Feelgood" Marshall, Earl "The Pearl" Warren, William "Zero" Douglas, "Empty" Souter, "Ruth "Vader" Ginsburg, Harry Blackmun and the rest of the lefties can "read" correctly. No! No judicial oversight. I'd like to get some useful intel. out of Gitmo.


188 posted on 01/12/2006 3:55:50 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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