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Another interesting discussion on the subject of a nuclear attack on Iran.
1 posted on 01/12/2006 9:35:52 AM PST by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Think 1st night of Desert Storm.


2 posted on 01/12/2006 9:38:35 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Resistance is futile. We are the Freepers. You will be assimilated)
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To: Dark Skies
If there are 200-300 possible sites,then we can't take chances...turn the entire 9th Century nation of pig fornicators into a parking lot.
3 posted on 01/12/2006 9:38:53 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: Dark Skies

The plural of aircraft, is "aircraft", not aircrafts. Sheesh. And the B2 is the stealth bomber, not the marginally stealthy B1.

Credibility = 0


4 posted on 01/12/2006 9:40:12 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Dark Skies
But time is running out. The threshold will soon be crossed when the Iranian facilities become "hot," meaning an attack on the sites would endanger the environment, most likely causing the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians in Iran. Can you say Chernobyl?

This is a witless piece of trash. Numerous reasons are given not to bomb Iran. And what's the downside if we don't bomb Iran? We might "endanger the environment"?

Oh, the horror!

Does this French idiot even considered what might happen if the fanatical leader of Iran, who thinks he's the Mahdi of the Last Days of the World, nukes Israel, or maybe New York and Los Angeles? Or would that help the environment by reducing the population?

6 posted on 01/12/2006 9:46:34 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dark Skies; dennisw; vrwc0915; Squantos; planekT; CodeToad

It's foolish to study this problem only in a military context without pondering the economic fallout of a likely cutoff of all Persian Gulf crude for several weeks during and after an Iran campaign.

You can bet that an Iranian contingency plan is to fire conventional SCUDs at the Saudi oil terminals in the event they are attacked, as well as mining the Hormuz etc.

Burning tankers in the PG will lead to an immediate price surge to past $150 or even higher for crude. The economic consequences to futures, hedge funds and derivatives markets in incalculable, and could lead to a global financial meltdown.

Remember, this is Ahmadiniwakjob's ultimate goal: to cause global chaos, and bring on an islamic apocolypse leading to his worldwide caliphate. Whether he realizes his goal before or after he gets nukes is not important. A global economic catastrophe will suit his purposes nicely.

Any major war with Iran at this time (and a 300 target air campaign surely qualifies!) is likely to lead to economic fallout we cannot even imagine.


11 posted on 01/12/2006 9:55:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Dark Skies
Okay, let's talk IF.

IF...Iran develops a nuclear warhead, and

IF...Iran mounts it on a North Korean misslie, and

IF...Iran launches that missile at Isreal, and

IF...The detonation takes place over, say, Haifa or Tel Aviv, and

IF...Hundreds of thousands, if not Millions, are killed,

WHAT?...IF, ANYTHING, will Isreal, US, EU, or UN do about it?

Strong condemnation?

A UN resolution #87465? Launch a nuclear attack on Iran? Remember there are millions in Iran that are innocent of their government's atrocities and would like to see them gone.

Just what would take place in the aftermath?...........

14 posted on 01/12/2006 9:59:29 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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To: Dark Skies

Anyhing from UPI is garbage.


15 posted on 01/12/2006 10:00:59 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: Dark Skies

An attack on Iran is not an all or nothing deal. People who say we can't affect them, that's Bull$hit. Despite dispersion, hardening and secrecy we surely can greatly affect the timeline and associated costs with developing an A-bomb. To the layperson it's a "yes" or "no" answer if an attack is effective. CNN will define what success is for the layperson. Reality is, we CAN bomb those reactors, we CAN bomb many facilities that are needed for them to produce a bomb. Will it be as easy as Israel had it in the early 80’s with Iraq – no. But we can have an effect on them

But there is another effect we can have. Create a “Cause and effect” relationship. Iran today works with impunity. Going after High Payoff targets within Iran should be done in a scope that extends BEYOND just nuclear sites but still limited to reduce Collateral Damage. If we go in, we should go after all kinds of nice to destroy targets. We should go in with the “intent” to break all the bad kids toys and make him cry. Create a causation. They operate on a different level than we do. Appeals to morals, values, international law, conventions are seen as weakness on our behalf. Breaking their toys they understand.

The one who is bluffing is “THEY”. What will Iran do that they are not doing already? Sponsor terrorist in Israel? Sponsor an insurgency in Iraq? Develop a nuke? If we bomb them, what will they do? Besides blowing hot air, they can’t do more than they already are. We are practically in a pseudo sate of war with Iran already! US SOF get seen in Iran, we kill some of their people in Iraq, US soldiers are dying at the hands of insurgents who are being equipped by Iran. Bombing Iran and doing so with the intent to follow through with a protracted bombing campaign “Balkan” style seems like a very good choice right about now.

Red6


31 posted on 01/12/2006 10:26:50 AM PST by Red6
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To: Dark Skies
A really amateur analysis, IMHO. Equating bombing a centrifuge facility with Chernobyl is simply hysterical.

I don't think the focus should be on the nuclear facilities anyway. The focus should be on regime change, by force if necessary. The rest will follow, and it's long overdue.

46 posted on 01/12/2006 11:18:18 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Dark Skies

I actually read this stupid article, filled as it is with "what-if" scenarios. How about this scenario - Iran gets nukes and does exactly what they have always said they would do. It only proves that the problem, indeed, is the United States and Israel </sarcasm>


73 posted on 01/12/2006 9:22:52 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: Dark Skies
We can send two armored divisions to Teheran, or we can bomb them continuously for several months. All this "three planes at each target" nonsense shows complete incomprehension of our military capabilities.
75 posted on 01/12/2006 10:27:34 PM PST by JasonC
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