[TheClintons-STILLAnti-American]

A blast from the past as a Federal judge repeats history in the continuing effort elevate man a status above which there can be none greater.

[Clemenza]

This is the time when I ask you folks to prove to me that there is a God, and if he has a place in Science class.

[wintertime]

I support the theory of evolution, so please, don't accuse me of being a Neanderthal.,,,,,HOWEVER,,,,,

The education of young children can NEVER be neutral, politically, culturally, or religiously, in content or in consequences. The flap over evolution/intelligent design is merely one of hundreds of issues that are not neutral in content or consequences. The government school WILL establish and uphold the worldview of some citizens ( with political, cultural, and religious consequences) and trash those of others.

Establish? Establish? Hm,,,,,don't we have a First Amendment on the federal level and sustained in every state constitution about the ESTABLISHMENT of one religious worldview over another?

So.,....tell me.

Why is the government in the business of owning and running schools that WILL establish the political, cultural, and religious worldview of some while trashing those of others?

Why is government running a price-fixed monopoly that is giving a product away for free?

Why is government creating a business environment that makes private schools scarce?

When private options are scarce or nonexistent it then threatens parent with armed police action and foster care for their kids if they refuse to cooperate with the NON-NEUTRAL political, cultural, and religious agenda of the government.

Why is government threatening citizens with the sheriff's auction of their homes and businesses to fund curriculum and school policies that WILL establish the political, cultural, and religious worldviews of some citizens and trash those of others?

Government has turned our citizens into a nation of renters.The government really owns our homes and businesses. If the citizen can not or will not pay their school taxes the government evicts them.

As for freedom of expression: Children have little or NO freedom of expression in any government school. Not only that but their right ( and indirectly those of their parents) to freely assembly is trashed as well. They can not print or free distribute their beliefs either. If children do not cooperate with government school officials they will be punished. If they are sufficiently resistant they will be arrested by armed police. ( real bullets in those guns on the hip) We have an example a child as young as 5 being handcuffed and hauled off to the local police station.

Government schools are an abomination! It is long past time that we begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education.

[Fintan]

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Sorry...I thought this was about Kennedy, Biden and Schumer.

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Communist Goals 1963 Congressional Record

[lewislynn]

Neaderthals At It Again

Hmmm.

[Right Wing Professor]

Judge Jones the Third could have avoided making a fool of himself by either declaring the case moot—the school board that required a statement in their biology textbook book claiming evolution was only a theory rather than a fact and that “intelligent design” was an alternative explanation to Charles Darwin’s, had been defeated in the prior election—or even ruled that the board decision was biased by religious prejudice.

The case wasn't moot. The legal theory in question is called voluntary cessation; even if an offender stops offending, the court still has to rule on the merits of the case.

What gives Batchelor Jones his superior powers? He admits he must deal with “complex if not obtuse” matters but claims that “after a six-week trial that spanned 21 days…no other tribunal in the United States is in a better position than are we to traipse into this controversial area.” No kidding, he did say traipse and it all came to him over the span of an incredible six weeks! After all, his scientific expertise prior to the Federal court was as The Honorable Chairman of the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board and before that as Solicitor of the great metropolis of Pottstown, PA, surely ranking favorably with the pallid scientific background of Mencken’s memorable Dr. Crabbes.

Judges adjudicate on matters of science all the time; that's why we have expert witnesses. The posturing ass who wrote this screed should stick to matters whereof he knows something - if there are any. The Law certainly isn't one.

Interestingly, Big Bang was fiercely rejected by the leading evolutionists of the 1960s for the same reason intelligent design is today.

...and he certainly knows nothing about this history of science!

Again, in the 1970s, it became increasingly impossible to ignore the scientific evidence that the fittest did not always survive. The fossil record showed innumerable species that died out that seemed more fit than those that survived.

Total BS. No one, to my knowledge has ever suggested this.

[wintertime]

Clintons-STILLAnti-American,

Are you a bully? Are you willing to shove evolution down the throats of resistant children and parents when you KNOW that it WILL have religious consequences for them?

Who are you,that you would do this to other people's children?

And before you accuse me of being a "Neanderthal". I support the theory of evolution, BUT,,,,I would NEVER use or advocate the threat of armed police action to FORCE it on other people's children. Also,,,,I am NOT willing to use the threat of armed sheriff's auction of homes and businesses to fund it.

There is NOTHING so important about evolution ( and hundreds of other topics with religious consequences) that can't wait for college. A short 3 month introductory course ( possibly even a weekend refresher) is enough to bring any young adult up to speed.

Of course the real solution is to begin the process of privatizing K-12 education. Parents, teachers, and principals are in the best position to decide these matters, not government and its police force.

[darkocean]

The problem here is bigger than the evolution debate. In colonial times politicians were all amateurs. What you were talking about was sixth and seventh sons of plantation owners having to spend the summer at the state house basically voting the family's position on issues and hoping it would be somebody elses turn next year; they'd rather be back on the plantation chasing girls. Under such circumstances, voting on a social issue presented no overwhelming problem for a normal politician.

Today's professional politicians want no part of social issues. There's no money or any other incentive in them for him and any way he votes on one of them, he alienates 45% of his constituency. If he then gets clumsy or unlucky in any way and alienates another 5.5 % of anybody in the next two years, he's out of office. Thus the system has now become for pols to shunt such decisions off to judges who are totally unaccountable to the political process and basically behave like ancient satraps, appointed for life.

Judges and prosecutors have way too much power in this county. Recent cases include abominations such as the scene in which Californians voted overwhelmingly on a plebescite vote to protect themselves from a rogue political party wishing to import third-world voting blocks for itself and force middle-class people to pay for the business, only to have the proposition shot down by a single clintonista judge and the Atzlaners celebrating the "last stand" of white America in California.

At that juncture the Californian middle class had three options: give up and accept new vision of serfdom, leave and find some other place to live, or take up the gun. Many have decided to leave. I'm constantly getting phone calls and emails from people with jobs in California paying more than I've ever made, and they act like they're in a state of shock when I tell them I'm not interested.

But, sooner or later, the problem has to be faced. Sooner or later in such a process, you run out of places to run to.

[Right Wing Professor]

Here's something interesting. The article says that Donald Devine, the editor, taught philosophy of science at the University of Maryland for 14 years and is a professor of Western Civilization at Bellevue University.

But if you go to the ACU web page, it says For 14 years, he was associate professor of government and politics at the University of Maryland, specializing in democratic theory and public opinion.

The latter makes far more sense, for a guy who used to run the US Office of Personnel Management. But professors of government and politics don't teach philosophy of science. Looks to me he's getting a little creative with his resume.

[MRMEAN]

What a pile of steaming dung. Anybody interested in what Judge Jones actually said should read his decision.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District et. al.

[thomaswest]

Yep, Gravity is just a theory.
http://www.re-discovery.org/gravity_1.html

If you know enough science to show the errors in this account, then you might be worth replying to. Show us your answers.

[Just mythoughts]

Well let's watch this little school to see the results. This little school is the perfect test case it is observable and testable. There is no shadow of a doubt that any part of the results can be blame on GOD.

[mewzilla]

Oh. I thought this was gonna be about the Dems at Alito's confirmation hearing.

[MHalblaub]

I prefer the term "Neandertaler" without an "h". The valley is called nowadays Neandertal. The scientific appellation still is "homo neanderthalensis" but you would pronounce the word "Neandertaler" a little bit more correct.

Pronunciation for Neandertaler :


At Neandertal you can still find some living Neandertaler!

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