.357 MAGNUM: This is the powerful Smith &
Wesson like the one carried by accused cop
killer Steven Armento (above) on the night of
the slaying. Cops say a .357 was used as
the murder weapon.
Posted on 01/11/2006 3:52:54 AM PST by Pharmboy
.357 MAGNUM: This is the powerful Smith &
Wesson like the one carried by accused cop
killer Steven Armento (above) on the night of
the slaying. Cops say a .357 was used as
the murder weapon.
January 11, 2006 -- An actor's accused cop-killing cohort brazenly bragged to police that he outgunned the gutsy officer — comparing his powerful .357 Magnum to the cop's measly department-issued Glock, his written statement reveals. Steven Armento, 48, said his firearm sent Officer Daniel Enchautegui flying though the air in the Bronx killing.
"He flew about 10 feet," Armento boasted in a two-page written statement he gave detectives. "That's what it would do to you, a .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .45 calibur [sic]. Not like those 9mm. They don't do nothing. Look what they do."
With that, Armento pointed to his legs to reveal superficial bullet wounds.
Experts say the .357 Magnum is significantly more powerful than a 9mm because the bullets are bigger and leave the gun nearly twice as fast.
Armento also details in his shocking admission what transpired the early morning of Dec. 10, when the off-duty Enchautegui heard glass breaking next door to his Pelham Bay home.
Armento and his alleged accomplice, Lillo Brancato Jr., who was in "The Sopranos" and Robert De Niro's movie "A Bronx Tale," had been boozing it up at the Crazy Horse, a strip club in The Bronx.
Armento told the cops they left early in the morning to get oral sex. But Brancato wanted more than sex. He told Armento he got Viagra, Valium and other pills from a friend's apartment three weeks earlier — and wanted to go back for more to "sell them," Armento's statement says.
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In older editions, the AP Stylebook had a section on firearms for editors to reference (since so few journalists had any knowledge of them, I presume!) I'm wondering if the reporter just got the muzzle energy equation all goofed up when someone tried to explain it.
It just goes to show you that you should never let a liberal democrat be in charge of anything, even if they claim to be a Republican.
No. the 9mm is a smaller diameter than the .357.
The measument is made differently, and the 9mm bullet diameter is only
.356" (that extra 1/1000 can hurl a man back 10 feet)
I have no idea why he had a .25. Most of my friends in the NYPD carry a .38 for backup, or as an off-duty weapon. As far as I know, It's not a requirement for an NYPD officer to be armed off duty, either, but they DO have to have ID at all times.
Bingo. The physics of the situation just don't work as described.
Typical dumb-ass reporter.
.357 = 0.357 inches diameter
9 mm = 0.354 inches diameter
Now "twice as fast" makes a difference, and if the bullets are of significantly different masses---but NOT 0.003" difference in diameter.
It's amazing what people believe. For instance, when I was little, a cop (the father of a friend) told me that .45s should be outlawed, except for the police, because they were too powerful. That no matter where it hit you, it would knock you off your feet. If it hit you in the finger, it would knock you off your feet! I asked a very simple question, even for a little kid, "why wouldn't it just tear your finger off, instead of knocking you down?" I never did get an answer to that one.
Mark
If this guy's got that power over physics, we should release him to the care and custody of NASA.
And technically, the writer did get the bullet size thing correct too... A jacketed 9mm is .355", while a jacketed .357 is .357". So, the .357 does fire a larger bullet: Larger by 2/1000 of an inch!
Mark
You would be surprised at the number of .45 Kool-Aid drinkers who still talk about "knock down power" and "stopping power".
1. Shot placement
2. Penetration
Anything else belongs to marketing departments.
My concealed carry instructor did a lot of myth-busting during my training. One myth busted was the Hollywood standard of showing people flying through the air backwards after being hit with a bullet.
And, yet my knife can cut right through it.
2. Penetration
That was my first thought when reading this.
A shredded aortic artery is a shredded aortic artery, no matter how it gets there.
No. He was off-duty, and the vest was back at his precinct in his locker. My son is NYPD and that was the first question I asked him.
A flight of fancy I suppose.
9mm, .38, .357 all take the same diameter bullet.
What are the NYPD rules for off-duty weapons?
That is why they are journalists: It's because they can't do any math. If they could, thwy would be working in the real world.
Well the cops go to high cap 9's and now .40's. The media now says the cops are "outgunned" because the .357 magnum is so much more powerful.
What is all boils down to is the media are going to portray those evil guns that us regular people have as somehow more evil than those the poor cops carry.
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