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'KILLER': I HAD COP OUTGUNNED
NY Post ^ | Jan. 11, 2006 | DENISE BUFFA

Posted on 01/11/2006 3:52:54 AM PST by Pharmboy


.357 MAGNUM: This is the powerful Smith &
Wesson like the one carried by accused cop
killer Steven Armento (above) on the night of
the slaying. Cops say a .357 was used as
the murder weapon.

January 11, 2006 -- An actor's accused cop-killing cohort brazenly bragged to police that he outgunned the gutsy officer — comparing his powerful .357 Magnum to the cop's measly department-issued Glock, his written statement reveals. Steven Armento, 48, said his firearm sent Officer Daniel Enchautegui flying though the air in the Bronx killing.

"He flew about 10 feet," Armento boasted in a two-page written statement he gave detectives. "That's what it would do to you, a .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .45 calibur [sic]. Not like those 9mm. They don't do nothing. Look what they do."

With that, Armento pointed to his legs to reveal superficial bullet wounds.

Experts say the .357 Magnum is significantly more powerful than a 9mm because the bullets are bigger and leave the gun nearly twice as fast.

Armento also details in his shocking admission what transpired the early morning of Dec. 10, when the off-duty Enchautegui heard glass breaking next door to his Pelham Bay home.

Armento and his alleged accomplice, Lillo Brancato Jr., who was in "The Sopranos" and Robert De Niro's movie "A Bronx Tale," had been boozing it up at the Crazy Horse, a strip club in The Bronx.

Armento told the cops they left early in the morning to get oral sex. But Brancato wanted more than sex. He told Armento he got Viagra, Valium and other pills from a friend's apartment three weeks earlier — and wanted to go back for more to "sell them," Armento's statement says.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; copkiller; mythbustersisbs
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Is a police-issue vest capable of stopping the .357?
1 posted on 01/11/2006 3:52:55 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

"He flew about 10 feet," Armento boasted"


riggghhhtt.


2 posted on 01/11/2006 4:00:15 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Pharmboy

Some vests (type 2 and above) protect against the 357 magnum.

Vests go a couple of levels higher than that protecting against the 45 magnum, high powered rifles (U.S. military designation M80) and even armor piercing rifles (U.S. military designation APM2)


3 posted on 01/11/2006 4:01:10 AM PST by gondramB (Democracy: two wolves and a lamb voting on lunch. Liberty: a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Pharmboy

Was the officer in question wearing armor?


4 posted on 01/11/2006 4:05:37 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

For some reason, instead of using his 9MM, Enchautegui was carrying his off-duty weapon, a .25 cal automatic. Why. I have no idea- The papers never said.
He still hit the two perps, though.

LC


5 posted on 01/11/2006 4:07:08 AM PST by LoneConservative (PEACE... Through SUPERIOR FIREPOWER!!!)
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To: Pharmboy

Let him continue bragging when they shove the needle in his arm.


6 posted on 01/11/2006 4:10:25 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Pharmboy

Dunno whether that cop had a 9mm, but .40 S&W in the right load has nearly the energy of many .357 loads. Speer 165 gr Gold Dot loads in my Glock achieve an energy of over 450 ft lb, close to the 500 of many standard .357. And it holds 14 of them to the .357's six.


7 posted on 01/11/2006 4:10:26 AM PST by Glock22
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"was carrying his off-duty weapon, a .25 cal automatic"

Why would anyone use that as a backup? .38 hammerless I can kinda understand..but .25?

Whoa.


8 posted on 01/11/2006 4:10:39 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: sgtbono2002

This happened in New York; I doubt he'll have a death sentence carried out...


9 posted on 01/11/2006 4:22:45 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jsher/)
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To: Pharmboy

Experts say the .357 Magnum is significantly more powerful than a 9mm because the bullets are bigger and leave the gun nearly twice as fast.

The so-called "expert" who was quoted probably was someone from the Million Mom March. In fact, the 9 mm is a .36 caliber bullet compared to a .357 caliber bullet.  Nor is it "nearly twice as fast."  Both calibers come in a myriad of bullet weights (measured in grains), and in a myriad of velocities. 

10 posted on 01/11/2006 4:23:35 AM PST by Mini-14
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Also, ...(excuse me if this trails off topic a touch) ... it wasn't possible for the assailant to have a more powerful firearm that the cop because as everyone knows, guns are illegal in New York City.

It's a good thing too, otherwise someone might have gotten hurt.

11 posted on 01/11/2006 4:27:25 AM PST by tcostell
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To: Pharmboy
Experts say the .357 Magnum is significantly more powerful than a 9mm because the bullets are bigger and leave the gun nearly twice as fast.

That would be your problem. 9 mm and 357 magnum bullets are interchangeable within the limits of a nines spec range. Twice as fast, not on this planet. A nine will kill just as easy. Nuts for experts.

Type II issue police vest should protect up to a 44 magnum.

Why the off duty cop had a .25 auto is any body's guess. I would say the off-duty officers have to carry, so he chose to carry a toy gun. There are plenty of choices that would have been far better.

I sure don't feel under gunned with my Glock 26 nine. It's small and easy to carry. A couple of rounds of 'Gold Dot' will put you on the pavement for good.

12 posted on 01/11/2006 4:29:58 AM PST by Tarpon
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"it wasn't possible for the assailant to have a more powerful firearm that the cop because as everyone knows, guns are illegal in New York City."


Have you heard the latest gun grabber stance (Blommberg, Menino and CO). "The criminals must be getting their guns from states that don't have our anti-2nd amendment laws, so we need to gun-grab everywhere!"
13 posted on 01/11/2006 4:33:44 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Blommberg, typo dangit. Bloomberg.


14 posted on 01/11/2006 4:35:29 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace; Tarpon

Isn't this the case where the off-duty cop was practically in his pajamas and encountered them as they broke in next door? It's very irresponsible of the reporter to not clarify, if indeed the officer had a .25 and not a 9 mm Glock. Perhaps this reporter didn't know that, and wrote the story thinking it was the duty weapon?

In any case, I find it amazing that now we're hearing "9mm is so weak" when it used to be "oh, we have to get those 9mm off the streets!" They won't stop until ALL guns are gone.


15 posted on 01/11/2006 4:37:20 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Mini-14
Yeah, "Experts". Expert in flower arranging, maybe. This is a dumb article.

As for the lightweight BUG, a lot of guys carry a really small, desperation, absolutely last chance BUG as ankle gun or behind the vest gun. And one problem with that is that they don't practice with them enough to carry them as an every day off-duty gun. A little gun like that, I would think, is only for when the sh*t hit the fan a couple of minutes ago.

But while our department uses 40's and off duty I carry 357 SIG, I think nines get a bad rap. I think a +P nine was all the moxie anyone needs and two well placed nines beat a wild 357 any day. Of course the flash/bang of the 357 has a large Gee Whiz and CDI factor ....

16 posted on 01/11/2006 4:39:38 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Allahu Fubar! (with apologies to Sheik Yerbouty))
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To: Pharmboy

I frown on cop killing. I also don't believe a pistol round would send anybody on a ten foot flight. Action=Reaction. Basic physics was part of my "rounded curriculum".


17 posted on 01/11/2006 4:41:49 AM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: Gondring
The anti-gun freaks will do anything to try and scare the public.

If it were the case where the cop ran next door, why wouldn't he just take his duty weapon? I would, especially if I thought the scene was hot. He may not have had time to put on a vest, but surely he had time to find a proper gun.

A pocket nine fits neatly in a pajama pocket. Safe blogging, you never know when a rabid liberal lurks nearby :^)

The article makes little sense, except to try and inflame public opinion.
18 posted on 01/11/2006 4:42:53 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: Mini-14

"The so-called "expert" who was quoted probably was someone from the Million Mom March."

A perfect example of media accuracy. How can you consider anyone an expert who thinks the 357 has a significantly larger bullet and travels twice as fast? Perhaps they meant muzzle energy? A 125 gr bullet at 1450 fps has about twice the energy of a 115 at 1100.


19 posted on 01/11/2006 4:45:39 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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To: LoneConservative

Why would anyone even consider carrying a .25?


20 posted on 01/11/2006 4:49:32 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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