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To: TAdams8591
me->"I can trade you stories all day long. Bet I can come up with more men who lost everything than you can women. I wouldn't even have to leave this site to get 50 or more."

you->The above well proves my point. If you were HONEST and FAIR you would NEVER have made the above statement. YOU are part of the problem, John O.

I don't understand why you have a problem with the truth. Search for any thread posted by RogerFGay and you'll find a bunch of men who've lost their kids etc. In fact, I'll make it easy for you.:

20 Organizations and Authorities Blast PBS on "Breaking the Silence"

Just click the link to read the statistics on this. (or read any other thread by Roger). The studies have been done and the numbers point to 85 to 90 percent of women being awarded custody of the children (or roughly 9 times as many men lost everything as opposed to women). Of course in some jurisdictions the numbers are different. In an Arlington VA study 100% of child custody cases were settled in the woman's favor (or an infinite number of men lost everything compared to women)

Now if my statement is true (and it demonstrably is) how can you call me dishonest or unfair for making it?

Go find the womb to produce your children. And be sure to explain to the owner of that womb, that it and the children it bears, is more important than she is.

Now why are you attacking women who want to have children? I don't understand how you can put down someone just because she wants children and is willing to marry someone to have them. Does the fact that some people want children bother you? Or perhaps the idea of someone getting married is the sticker? I really don't understand.

430 posted on 01/11/2006 10:30:11 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
The studies have been done and the numbers point to 85 to 90 percent of women being awarded custody of the children (or roughly 9 times as many men lost everything as opposed to women).

Specifically, what is the problem with that? If you married, would you want mom to stay home with the kids? If so, why?

I'm just trying to figure out if you are one of those hypocrites who talks out of both sides of his mouth:

"Women should stay home with the kids. It's Mom's job to raise them. It's Dad's job to work."

"In cases of divorce, custody should not be awarded to moms so often. After all, the mother/child relationship is no more important than the father/child relationship."

440 posted on 01/11/2006 11:04:25 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: John O

The reason why women get custody of their children over the men is a simple one. Even today, most children are primarily taken care of by their mothers. The courts don't want to take kids away from the primary caregiver.

Until men become the primary care givers in most instances, kids will go with their mothers.

I personally think that when kids get to be about 12, they should pick where they live if all things are equal. I think girls would normally pick their moms, and boys would pick their dads. It only becomes tricky when you have siblings of the opposite sex.

Of course, these cases can be eliminated if the parents can work together and come up with a plan together that is best for the children.


442 posted on 01/11/2006 11:06:20 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: John O
"The second point is we need to revamp family law so that marriage doesn't have as many risks for the man as it does now. It's scary how easy it is to lose your whole life just because the woman went strange on you. If I didn't want more kids I wouldn't remarry at all, I'd just play around. Same as the 20 somethings are doing."

No one was attacking women who want to get married and have children. what I was attacking was the little gems written by you in an earlier post, along with that comment by you that women have a shelf life.

Men have shelf lives too. Most 25 to 35 year old women, won't be interested in 45 year old you. And many men in their 40's have fertility problems. Women are hurt by men every bit as much as men are hurt by women. These are all "truths" you seem to enjoy ignoring. You are most selective about the truth, John O. And you deserved to be challenged for those comments you wrote above.

The good men I know and have known, would never have made the comments you made, and thank God are and were FAIR men. YOU are not.

462 posted on 01/11/2006 12:18:12 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The first amendment does NOT protect vulgar and obscene speech.)
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