When Real Judicial Conservatives Attack [Dover ID opinion]

The UCSD Guardian ^ | 09 January 2005 | Hanna Camp

[spunkets]

"In later times, the citizens of the states freely and by their own votes ended these established churches. But there is nothing in the Constitution that would prevent them from reestablishing a religion in any state in the unlikely event that they chose to do so."

The 14th Amend. extends the Bill of Rights to all jurisdictions. Establishment of religion is forbidden.

" The second issue is whether Darwinism has a monopoly on the truth, and should be enabled to demand that no competition will be permitted."

Evolution is science. There is no monopoly on truth in science. Religious claims are not science. Religious claims do not belong in the science classroom being taught as scientific truth.

[Mojave]

In his decision, Judge John E. Jones III ruled that not only is the theory of intelligent design religion poorly dressed in science language,

When will he order Global Warming out of the classroom?

[Ichneumon]

[And humans are still apes.]

If that is the case, let's see an experiment cross breeding an ape with a human.

Why? It does not follow that different members of the same higher-level taxon can necessarily interbreed. Gibbons and gorillas are both apes, but they can't interbreed either.

Heck, there are different species of fruitflies which can't interbreed.

Again, *please* learn some biology before you attempt to critique it.

[Right Wing Professor]

Just be thankful we haven't all been put on his 'Human-Ape hybrid' pinglist.

[spunkets]

"unfortunately, few people seem to get this (not so complicated) nuance of Constitutional law...and the federal courts now have 60 years of illegitimate rulings behind them which they can cite as some kind of authority for interjecting themselves in every local issue state-religion issue"

The 14th Amend., extending the Bill of Rights to all jurisdictions is post civil war. In case you missed it, States were violating civil rights.

[puroresu]

By the way, Prof, I should have mentioned that the link I provided to you earlier (below) is to material written by the author of an upcoming book on John Bingham:


http://federalistblog.us/mt/articles/14th_dummy_guide.htm#e

[Blzbba]

"I don't take OT laws seriously any more but I'm sure I would have if I would have lived in those times. I also don't take prohibition laws seriously but I would have in the 20s."


Exactly why the story of Creation shouldn't be taken seriously. It was written for the people living in those times.

[Physicist]

My father was a Mulatto, his father a Negro, and his father a monkey. My ancestry begins where yours ends!" -- Alexandre Dumas

[puroresu]

####The 14th Amend., extending the Bill of Rights to all jurisdictions is post civil war.####


No, it didn't extend the Bill of Rights to all jurisdictions:

http://federalistblog.us/mt/articles/14th_dummy_guide.htm#e

[b_sharp]

You can't counter the evidence for evolution so you attack the proponents of evolution. Hmmm.

Do you really believe this is a valid argument?

[puroresu]

#####When will he order Global Warming out of the classroom?#####


Not until it becomes un-PC.

[b_sharp]

"Maybe - but more people believe "God did it" than believe evolution.

Argument by appeal to popularity. Yup, that aughta work.

[PatrickHenry]

Quote mining opportunity!

[Doctor Stochastic]

Some beliefs are more Fundamental than others.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Artful Dodger and pending "Abandon Thread!" alert.

[Antonello]

Aaaaannnnnd what were you hoping to see?

This, maybe?

[b_sharp]

I'm afraid she is more interested in playing her own little games than in learning anything.

[Doctor Stochastic]

In vivo?

In vivo?

In the Wild?

On a Cabaret stage?

[Right Wing Professor]

Looks like a tortured argument to me, based on the thesis that when Bingham referred to the first 8 amendments, he wasn't actually referring to the amendments, but to some part of the amendments. I prefer to take the man at his word.

In any case, I consider the establishment clause a fundamental liberty; it recognizes my right not to be subjected to a state religion.

[shuckmaster]

If that is the case, let's see an experiment cross breeding an ape with a human.

A sick one you are!