Posted on 01/06/2006 2:56:53 PM PST by wagglebee
Three Kansas NBC affiliates have announced they will not be carrying NBCs "The Book of Daniel. KSNG in Garden City, KSNC in Great Bend and KSNK in Oberlin have responded to community concern and will not air the program.
They join KNSW-TV in Wichita, Kan., KARK-TV in Little Rock, Ark. and WTWO in Terre Haute, Ind., in refusing to carry NBCs new series.
American Family Association (AFA) says that NBC has received more than 600,000 emails protesting the program.
After viewing the first episode at WBIR in Knoxville, several religious leaders gave their views on the program. Brian Kearns, minister at Lighthouse Christian Church, said, "I think its very demeaning to Christianity. Its an assault on the Christian faith.
Rev. Tom Seay of the Bearden United Methodist Church, described it as "just a pretty sorry piece of work. Dale Powers of the Catholic Diocese of Knoxville said "Youre portraying something as normal that is just absurd. And Rev. John Stuart said, "What the show has done is demean my faith. Youve diminished the person I worship ... youve wounded me.
Donald E. Wildmon, chairman of AFA, said NBC is running the program despite the loss of millions of dollars in advertising revenue. "Advertisers are shying away from the program, Wildmon stated. "But NBCs hostility to Christians and Christianity runs deep.
The programs main characters include Daniel Webster, a drug-addicted Episcopal priest; his alcoholic wife; his son, a 23-year-old homosexual Republican; his daughter, a 16-year-old drug dealer; a 16-year-old adopted son who is having sex with the bishop's daughter; his lesbian secretary who is sleeping with his sister-in-law; and a very unconventional white-robed, bearded Jesus who reassures the priest that his drug-dealing daughter and promiscuous son are good kids.
According to media reports, it is written by Jack Kenny, a practicing homosexual, who describes himself as being "in Catholic recovery, interested in Buddhist teachings about reincarnation, and not sure exactly how he defines God and/or Jesus. "I don't necessarily know that all the myth surrounding him (Jesus) is true, he said.
Boy, that's strange.
You're a diver. I'm a diver. Getting a dive cert requires reading comprehension, yet you've exhibited a rather poor level of reading comprehension here on this thread.
Let's try that again, shall we? Incresing the font size should help:
It's only censorship if the government does it.
As for your implication that folks hoping to get the show pulled are doing so because they want more people to watch it, I'd say you need to bring evidence to back such a charge.
I never would have watched, except for all the furor.
Then I'm sorry to inform you that you are weak-minded and easily led. Whether the people who want to influence your daily activities are the network execs or Wildmon and his crowd, you did exactly what they wanted. "These aren't the droids you're looking for..."
The folks that want NBC not to show it effectively want to censor the show from anyone that wants to see it. Its not only censorship if the government does it.
You don't want others to see it, so you want NBC to pull it. Therefore it is censored.
I don't care if you watch it, use your own censorship button on your remote.
I watched it because, unlike the screaming meemies on this thread, I figured I would actually see what everyone is condemning, so I could make up my mind, without you all trying to make up my mind for me.
Some of us are for freedom to choose what to watch, others aren't.
No one censors speech they agree with.
What's Hollywood?
WSFA here in Montgomery Has an Opinion form on thier front page for people to voice thier concerns on Book of Daniel. They showed the premier,but have announced that they will not carry anymore episodes if the opinions they receive are negative.
Hey, I disagree with all his viewpoints regarding our Lord as well, but you have no idea where he's going when he dies. The Lord may not be through with him. Saying those things don't help.
Good idea. Where's P&G when you really need them?
Point taken, thanks.
You raise a good point, not unlike the argument that, if one does not like what's on the boob toob, he can ditch it or change the channel. As a true believer I'd like to respond to that notion.
First of all, my concern is not only for what might influence me. Firm as I am in my convictions, my concern extends also to what might influence my neighbor. I don't want my neighbor to suffer philosophical, political, theological malfeasance any more than I would want to carefully steer his feet toward a fresh pile of cow manure.
Secondly, this kind of inflammatory, mediocre programming is an abuse of mass media. There are too many better things that could be placed on the screen, starting with reruns of Gilligan's Island.
Thirdly, I've had enough of blow-hard Hollywood and mainstream media bullshit. (Pardon my English.) The best recourse is to point out, publicly and clearly, the inflammatory abuses generated by those who think it is of some benefit to rub the public's nose in a stinking pile. Human decadence is a natural occurrence. It is a disservice to mankind to see it broadcast.
No problem - God bless!
When the customers of a business ask a business to do something and it responds, that is a business transaction. You can call that business transaction "censorship" all you want, but that won't make it so. Strange how if this show is popular or if it goes down in flames from bad ratings folks like you would call that "market forces," but if the network decides that urinating on 80% of the American people is a bad idea because of some customer input, that's "censorship."
You don't want others to see it, so you want NBC to pull it. Therefore it is censored.
No, I want the network to refrain from treating the Savior of the world as a hack character to screw with. If you're going to keep up the contention that there's some other dark, control-freak motive, you need to bring some evidence.
I don't care if you watch it, use your own censorship button on your remote.
Well, when NBC does a show making Frank Zappa out to be a child molester I guess you can use your "censorship button" too.
I watched it because, unlike the screaming meemies on this thread, I figured I would actually see what everyone is condemning, so I could make up my mind, without you all trying to make up my mind for me.
Sorry, I don't see any posts in this thread to you before you arrived. In other words, no one in this thread tried to make up your mind. You seem obsessed with the idea that people are trying to control your life, when in fact those people have no interest in doing so. And yet, you are easily led, and even convince yourself that your sheeplike tendencies are a sign of independence: "These aren't the droids you're looking for." "These aren't the droids we're looking for."
Some of us are for freedom to choose what to watch, others aren't.
Wildmon types write some letters.
You organize a pro-Daniel campaign and write letters.
NBC reads the letters and decides how to respond to cusomer input.
How does that sequence involve somebody's freedom being taken away again? Can you cite the clause in the Constitution that outlines the freedom we're violating when we ask NBC to replace this show?
No one censors speech they agree with.
And nobody doesn't like Sara Lee. Repeating that statement endlessly won't make it insightful. It means nothing, and it has nothing to do with this situation.
Bilge
You just want to be in charge of what other people watch on TV. You want to remove choices from someone, because you are offended. Too bad, its still America, not a theocracy.
Did you even watch the show, or are you relying on group think to make up your mind?
Go play Taliban somewhere else, where its still allowed.
Yes, it's such crap you're easily refuting it with great insight and direct answers to my questions. Oh wait, that's not what you're doing at all.
You just want to be in charge of what other people watch on TV.
Evidence. Evidence. C'mon, chant it with me...evidence...evidence...Oooohhhhhhmmmmm
You want to remove choices from someone, because you are offended.
No, I'm 100% behind your right to write a nice letter to NBC asking them to run whatever garbage you'd like to see. You are opposed to me writing them to express my opinion, yet you actually believe that you're the one who supports individual freedom more. Sorry, no cigar.
Too bad, its still America, not a theocracy.
I chuckle warmly at the idea that asking a TV network to replace a show is somehow equivalent to the actions of the governments of places like Iran and Myanmar. Oh, and what part of the Constitution was it again that says I don't have the right to contact a business about their product mix? Surely an expert on civil liberties such as yourself should have no trouble citing it. Here, I'll even save you going to Google and give you a link to the text.
Did you even watch the show, or are you relying on group think to make up your mind?
Pretty good shot, except for the three flaws that turn it into crap:
1. Unless you've never, ever, relied on the opinion of another person before choosing to spend your time on a movie or TV show, you are being a hypocrite. Do you watch the 700 Club? If you don't, how do you know that Pat Robertson isn't the wonderful soul of wit and tolerance?
2. Group think is a very different psychological phenomenon than the one you're describing. What you would be describing is known in very technical language as "reading an article about a show and then not watching it." For a rundown on what group think is, take Intro to Psych at your local community college.
3. The only way my opinion of this situation would NOT be justified is if the last two paragraphs of the posted article (and many similar media reports) are complete lies. So, you saw the show...is it about "a drug-addicted Episcopal priest," etc, etc. or not?
o play Taliban somewhere else, where its still allowed.
Aw, that's cute.
The Taliban made men wear a certain type of beard, or be subject to criminal prosecution. They beat women for showing ankle and stoned them for premarital/extra-marital sex. If another man beat your wife with a rod at the market because she didn't move out of his way fast enough, well, too bad for you, and her. They said girls couldn't learn to read, women couldn't leave the house without a male relative, and you couldn't own a TV or listen to music. OPh, and then there was that little thing where they harbored Al-Qaida and helped get the 9/11 attacks on the ground.
But you figure a bunch of folks writing letters to a TV channel is the same thing. Bravo! That's real keen rreasoning.
Normally at this point I'd recommend you reach for the yellow-and-black striped handles located on either side of your seat so you can get out before the flames reach your main fuel tank, but this is kinda fun! Feel free to come on back at me, and make sure you hit me with that devestating "anti-letters" provision in the Constitution! Can't wait!
Lots of words, very little substance.
You don't have the common sense to just not watch the show, instead you gotta impose your beliefs on everyone else and try to get it banned.
That is cowardly.
Just don't watch. The free market will decide if the show sinks or swims.
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