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Microsoft pushes out Windows patch ahead of time
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Posted on 01/05/2006 12:45:10 PM PST by Gomez

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To: minus_273

Excellent explanation of this new exploit!!!

All the Firewall's and anti spyware doesn't mean much with this exploit....

I think the Microsoft bureaucracy got caught with their shorts down!!!


101 posted on 01/05/2006 3:50:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: minus_273

I didn't know that. Thanks. Glad this patch is coming out. I am certainly not a securty expert.


102 posted on 01/05/2006 3:54:04 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Microsoft Office 2004 does. You can even run Windows inside your Mac. Don't try running Windows XP though. Slow as molasses. Grab a copy of Windows 2000 Professional off Ebay and you're set.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

103 posted on 01/05/2006 3:54:27 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, they need to maintain backward compatibility, although I've heard Vista won't be as thorough as XP and previous versions were, which I'll miss.

But I find it hard to believe that a flaw that penetrates to the core of a system, i.e. allows someone to execute malicious code on your system, can survive across the DOS 4.x - DOX 6.22 - DOS 7/Win 95 - DOS 8/Win 98 - 2000/NT5 - XP/NT5.1 development lines. Like I said, they don't even share the same kernel.


104 posted on 01/05/2006 3:56:46 PM PST by Turbopilot (Nothing in the above post is or should be construed as legal research, analysis, or advice.)
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To: Turbopilot

Well,....I think this is just an application.....but because of the way Windows is constructed....it has access to privileged services....


105 posted on 01/05/2006 3:59:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Turbopilot
i.e. allows someone to execute malicious code on your system,

THAT is the Windows FLAW!!!

106 posted on 01/05/2006 4:00:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: dennisw
Huh? All I have installed on my Mac is a beefed-up firewall called Intego Net Barrier X3. There's no need for all that Windows security software. Viruses, worms and malware are nothing for Mac users to worry about. There's no need for an anti-virus program. Ditto for a spyware scanner. That's how secure Mac OSX is. And since you were asking Safari as a browser beats Internet Explorer by a mile and although its still installed in Mac OSX no body ever runs it because Microsoft stopped developing it for the Mac for ages now. My other browser is - you guessed it - Firefox. I have all the apps I ever need out of the box on here and the only thing I bought were two Microsoft Office 2004 Professional CDs. So now I have all the programs most people use every day. Didn't have to spend thousands on new software. That's now different its with a Mac.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

107 posted on 01/05/2006 4:03:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Upon rereading, it looks like only 2000, 2003, and XP are vulnerable to the flaw, which makes more sense. Of course. it's never good if malicious code can be executed on your machine.

But it looks like for this specific flaw to be exploited, you have to go to a web page or open an email or document containing a .WMF picture that's been edited maliciously. So so users were always safe from this one as long as they followed the standard rule never to open an email or document from someone you don't know or that you can't identify, and avoid websites such as my old favorite, www.pr0n-n-w4r3z.ru. Opening something containing malicious code can screw up any machine.


108 posted on 01/05/2006 4:11:53 PM PST by Turbopilot (Nothing in the above post is or should be construed as legal research, analysis, or advice.)
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To: Vinnie
I have tried running a version of Linux from CD. Eh.
It won't save my settings,bookmarks, etc. Therefore I have to put all that stuff in each time I start it up. A real PIA.

If you would like to save your state from reboot to reboot using a Linux live-cd, you might try the Puppy distribution.

109 posted on 01/05/2006 4:17:31 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: Gomez
It just came up as an automatic download on my computer. I downloaded it and it's working perfeoi jvian rauiogtr iugho soidj fgoiht aoieh9852907-0^&()*3-
110 posted on 01/05/2006 4:19:50 PM PST by steveo (No Anchovies? You've got the wrong man, I spell my name steveo...)
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To: Doohickey

Jeez, what is it with all the animosity towards people who don't want to make Bill Gates even richer for making an inferior and defective product?


111 posted on 01/05/2006 5:21:32 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Turbopilot
From what I understand, you could also get it from a hotlinked image. So even browsing FR could expose you.
112 posted on 01/05/2006 5:29:24 PM PST by Gomez
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Class envy and principio principii all in one post. Impressive.


113 posted on 01/05/2006 5:52:50 PM PST by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Gomez
So even browsing FR could expose you.

Not if you browse with lynx. I SSH to my server and lynx from there. No FW, no AV, no spyware checker, no patches.

114 posted on 01/05/2006 6:03:14 PM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: RadioAstronomer
However, I run very complex math and orbit oriented software that does not run on a Mac. Two of my machines use Linux and two (the SGI and Sun) use their respective UNIX flavors.

Um, you are aware, aren't you, that Macs are UNIX? You should be able to compile your application for Macs from either the Linux or SGI or Sun code... Macs are quite well thought of in the scientific areas because of their ease of use and the flexibility of UNIX that is the OSX foundation under the GUI.

115 posted on 01/05/2006 6:13:25 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Doohickey

Heck, they don't even fix one before they are releasing a NEW version. And not only that, they are no longer going to support XP Home edition after the first of 2007. So get this, if you run out this summer and buy a new PC with Windows XP Home edition on it, it will not be supported after a paltry 6 months.

A pox Bill Gates and the crap he has foisted on us all.


116 posted on 01/05/2006 6:16:22 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Doohickey

It is not class envy to not to want to pay money for an inferior product.


117 posted on 01/05/2006 6:17:45 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Swordmaker

Oh, yeah. I'm sure that all he has to do is recompile his code, right? LMFAO! Who's your dealer? I've gotta get me some of that stuff you're smoking...


118 posted on 01/05/2006 6:28:20 PM PST by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Then why did you mention "making Gates richer" if it was irrelevant to your point?


119 posted on 01/05/2006 6:29:48 PM PST by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
All the Firewall's and anti spyware doesn't mean much with this exploit....

Umm... Antivirus makers catch up to Windows bug

"While users wait for a Microsoft fix, many antivirus products will protect PCs against attacks that exploit a recently disclosed Windows flaw, but not all. "

"According to a test of a range of antivirus products published on Wednesday, Trend Micro was the only major antivirus vendor that failed to catch a number of malicious files that exploit the new Windows vulnerability."

120 posted on 01/05/2006 6:38:10 PM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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