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British threat to fighter project
The Australian ^ | 5th January 2006 | John Kerin

Posted on 01/04/2006 4:38:59 PM PST by naturalman1975

AUSTRALIA is facing a further cost blowout on its purchase of next-generation fighters, with Britain threatening to pull out of the US-led joint strike fighter project over Washington's reluctance to share the secrets of stealth technology.

Canberra has not threatened to withdraw from the $256 billion project despite the escalating cost of the warplanes, but says it shares Britain's concerns.

The Defence Department is negotiating with the Bush administration to ensure Australian military and defence contractors have access to software codes and stealth technology to maintain and service the F-35s it is planning to take delivery of in 2014.

A bill introduced to the US Congress in 2003, which would have given Australia and Britain access to otherwise secret technology, has stalled and is unlikely to be revived.

A report in London's Sunday Times newspaper cited Ministry of Defence officials as saying Britain was developing a "PlanB" to purchase an alternative fighter - a modified Eurofighter - for its navy if it cannot overcome concerns over the project costs and technology transfer.

Any pullout by Britain, which has invested $2billion and was slated to buy 150 F-35 aircraft for its air force and navy, would force up the costs for other countries planning to buy the fighter jet.

The JSF project, already plagued by cost overruns, aims to build 2500 of the sensor-evading stealth fighters for the US, and hundreds of others for its allies under the most ambitious program of its kind.

Australia is slated to spend about $16 billion to buy up to 100 F-35s to replace its ageing F/A-18 fleet. But Defence officials warned this week Canberra could buy just 50 if the aircraft becomes prohibitively expensive.

The JSF project has run into other problems, with the Pentagon budget to be slashed by $270million this year and cuts of up to 500 reported in US orders.

Australian Strategic Policy Institute analyst Aldo Borgu said yesterday any pullout by Britain would compound the cost blowouts on the project.

"Though I'm sure the Brits are working overtime to avoid a pullout, if things go pear-shaped it could prove not only a blow to the prestige of the JSF project but also force up the cost of each aircraft for other buyers," Mr Borgu said.

Labor defence spokesman Robert McClelland called on Defence Minister Robert Hill to immediately clarify the status of Australia's bid for the F-35 fighters.

Senator Hill conceded that the US bill that would have provided Australia and Britain with an exemption on technology transfer rules had stalled in the US Congress and said Canberra was investigating other ways to "get around the issue".

"The Bush administration is aware of Australia's and Britain's concerns and they may have discretion under other licensing arrangements to give us access (to the technology)," Senator Hill told The Australian.

He said it was "no secret" that the JSF program could face cuts under Washington's review of its military spending.

Senator Hill conceded Australia might not need to buy as many as 100 fighters "because the fighter would be more capable than anything we've ever seen".

On suggestions the US air force would scrap its orders for the version Australia was interested in, Senator Hill said he understood the USAF was "strongly resisting" the move.

He was also unconcerned at reports of a threatened British pullback from the fighter project, saying Britain was "too heavily committed" to withdraw.


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1 posted on 01/04/2006 4:38:59 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

All very well and good, but can we trust the Poms with these secrets?


2 posted on 01/04/2006 4:42:09 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Maybe we can get the Chinese to come in as a partner. For sure China can be counted on to buy one.


3 posted on 01/04/2006 4:53:17 PM PST by OldArmy52
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To: OldArmy52

I reckon the Iranians would be a good bet, too.


4 posted on 01/04/2006 4:54:44 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

It's not a matter of "the Poms". Britain is the only Level 1 partner on the project. Australia is a Level 3 partner.

Why should Britain continue on a project when, at its conclusion, it does not have full and complete access to all the systems on the JSF, due to certain individual Members of the US House of Representatives using their privilged position as Chair or Members of the relevant committees to block the necessary legislation.

If Britain doesn't have access to the source code for the plane software, it cannot modify or maintain the JSFs indepdendently from the US, which is not acceptable for a soverign military force.


5 posted on 01/04/2006 5:05:17 PM PST by gary_b_UK
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To: OldArmy52

We could use Russia... They could lower the production cost and would be a trustworthy ally... /sarc


6 posted on 01/04/2006 5:05:31 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: gary_b_UK
If Britain doesn't have access to the source code for the plane software, it cannot modify or maintain the JSFs independently from the US, which is not acceptable for a sovereign military force.

So be it.


7 posted on 01/04/2006 5:23:39 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius

It's been said in the past that the difference between Soviet infiltration of British intelligence in the 1950s, and Soviet infiltration of US intelligence in the 1950s, is that the British eventually identified the moles in their midst.


8 posted on 01/04/2006 5:27:43 PM PST by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: naturalman1975

Some folks are starting to smell a chance for the Euro-entries like the EF-2000 & Rafale to get an order at last!!


9 posted on 01/07/2006 7:47:24 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: naturalman1975
Where is 'Toon when we need him?

He would be happy to share secrets with anyone - for a price of course.

10 posted on 01/07/2006 9:12:29 AM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: Pukin Dog

FYI.


11 posted on 01/07/2006 9:27:55 AM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

HeHe!


12 posted on 01/07/2006 10:03:02 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Typhoon is already in the bag for Austria and Saudi Arabia. The Rafale is yet to gain any overseas order.


13 posted on 01/07/2006 1:53:13 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: OldArmy52

" For sure China can be counted on to buy one."

Why should China buy one? One of the Clinton appointments which Bush left in the military will arrange for one to be stolen.


14 posted on 01/07/2006 9:10:11 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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