It's the Demography, Stupid The real reason the West is in danger of extinction.

Opinion Journal ^ | January 4, 2006 | MARK STEYN

[Toaster tank]

Most people reading this have strong stomachs, so let me lay it out as baldly as I can: Much of what we loosely call the Western world will not survive this century, and much of it will effectively disappear within our lifetimes

[dsc]

"Plus AIDS is spreading like wildfire "

I'm still waiting for AIDS to significantly affect the population of a country.

[wouldntbprudent]

four is good! congrats!

[.cnI redruM]

Amazing. This stuff is all so frikking basic, and no one seems to see it. The people who multiply are the ones who have confidence in the future and expect to win out. That's not our team right now.

[Sir Gawain]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;s=demography

[ncpatriot]

Note: read the next post I'll have up in a few minutes on this topic

Did you post?

[Van Jenerette]

...reading.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Life expectancy will see a radical transformation upward in the next 20-30 years which will ameliorate the problem Steyn ponders.

The West will not be saved by old people.

[Neville72]

Title of the Thread is:

Developing Biomedical Tools to Repair Molecular and Cellular Damage


probably on page 2 or 3 by now

[starbase]

I'm still waiting for AIDS to significantly affect the population of a country.

Yes, perhaps you've read this work by one of the original AIDS researchers. THE AFRICAN AIDS EPIDEMIC: NEW AND CONTAGIOUS - OR - OLD UNDER A NEW NAME?

It contrasts the exponential growth, then leveling off and precipitous decline, of the mortality rate of a truly microbial disease, with the slow and even, long term death rate of a behavioral or chemical caused event, highlighting that AIDS follows the later course, not the former.

Based on this work, I am no longer convinced that HIV is the killer it is thought to be. You're quite right that no country has seen these enormous deaths, plus what is attributed to death by "AIDS" every year in Africa includes more and more different diseases, all under the assumption that they are secondary to HIV infection, when in fact they are independent causes of death in and of themselves.

I just tossed the HIV point in because it's not been shown it's harmless at all either. Plus many Muslim families are electing to do a suicide bombing to erase the "shame" of an HIV infection, whether or not it's a killer disease, this could affect a lot in coming years.