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Box Office Blahs: Blame It on (Fill in the Blank)
Washington Post (WashingtonPost.com) ^ | December 30, 2005 | William Booth

Posted on 01/03/2006 6:52:33 AM PST by RayChuang88

LOS ANGELES -- Hollywood ticket sales took a little swan dive in 2005. Why? The consensus hypothesis appears to be that the movies were -- brace yourselves -- not good.

The industry and its observers are also variously blaming DVDs, video games, iPods, cellular phones, HBO, crying babies, $10 tickets, Chinese pirates, big screen plasma TVs, an aging demographic, liberal bias, video-on-demand, annoying pre-feature commercials and the Bush administration's energy policy.

The Great Box Office Slump has been covered by the entertainment press with a kind of giddy obsession ever since the summer proved blockbuster-deficient. Each week, the prognosticators sought deeper meaning in the weekend tallies for undercooked turkeys such as "Stealth" and "The Legend of Zorro." There was hope in the Hollywood press that "King Kong" might "save the day," but alas, the big ape has so far "disappointed," if it is possible for a $66 million opening five-day gross to disappoint (which it is, since Peter Jackson and Universal spent $220 million making the monkey movie).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boxoffice; dvd; hollyweird; hollywoodleft; homosexualagenda; liberalagenda; movies
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; All
You're absolutely right!

To me, the truly sad thing is that, somehow, we have created the image that what these left-wing idiots think makes a difference to us. How did that get started...and why? Given what they say, most appear to have the IQ of dirt, yet the MSM gives them huge press coverage. Their movies are simply an extension of this and I refuse to pay for it.

Geeze...I can feel my blood pressure rising as I write this...
41 posted on 01/03/2006 7:19:29 AM PST by econjack
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To: neodad
Exactly. Things that win "critical acclaim" are hardly ever entertaining. I'm sure that Brokeback Mountain hit home for many critics...for their own personal reasons.

And, I would like to make a different commentary that someone may have already made, but I hadn't read it, so I'll post it here. And, will readily admit that it is slightly uninformed because I haven't seen and have no intention of seeing. It's my understanding that the 2 main characters aren't really cowboys. They're, essentially, sheperds.

Hmm. Now, let's look at Hollywood's values and perspective when they are making films.

I just wonder if it is a coincidence that these gay dudes were sheperds (sheep cowboys), as opposed to cattle rustlers?. Anyone else remember a famous Sheperd? Is it a coincidence that Jesus Christ is known as the Good Sheperd and Hollywood chose sheperds?

And Hollyweird wonders why, well, most everyone in America might find that allusion a little disturbing?1

42 posted on 01/03/2006 7:19:59 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the RATs and RINOs, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" - Arnie)
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To: sgtbono2002
Isaw the trailer for Bareback Mounting last night on TV. It was very deceptive.

I saw the trailer in the theater last week. It left no doubt as to the subject-matter. It showed one of the guys with a wife, but the major portion of the trailer showed the two guys together. It was disturbing. I was very upset to see that the kid who played Homer Hickam in October Sky is one of the gay cowboys.

When the preview started, I leaned over to my 15-year-old daughter and whispered, "This must be the gay cowboy movie." She thought I was nuts, but by the time the trailer ended, she was in total agreement.

43 posted on 01/03/2006 7:20:29 AM PST by Blue Eyes (I love Lucy. How 'bout you? Do you love Lucy, too?)
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To: RayChuang88

No, no no...the Hollywood Reporter says that we don't understand the level of genius in Hollywood now. It's our fault. I'm not kidding.


44 posted on 01/03/2006 7:20:48 AM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: RayChuang88

Movies about gay cowboys and transsexuals will not make you a lot of money. Hollywood is so stupid.

Here's a movie that will make $300M - a young high school graduate rejects his liberal parents and joins the ROTC in college. He eventually fights in Iraq and becomes a hero. All the time, his parents reject him. But, when he finally becomes a national hero, his parents seize the spotlight and claim now they supported him all along. Upon finally reuniting with his parents, his spits on their shoes and says, "I love my country more than I love you." Final line in the movie.

People will be wrapped around the corner to see it.


45 posted on 01/03/2006 7:21:02 AM PST by GianniV
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To: Impeach the Boy
HOWEVER, I believe the biggest reason for the drop in attendance is DVD, DVD copies, large screen TV's, surround sound systems, etc.

That's because with a decent home theater system you enjoy the following advantages:

1. Picture quality will be generally very good with decent sharpness and brightness.

2. Sound quality will be generally very good.

3. You can make your own concessions at way lower cost.

4. The film on DVD often is a longer edition the director intended, without having to consider MPAA ratings or excessive running time.

5. Also, the film on DVD often has a commentary track, which is often very insightful on various aspects of the movie.

6. Finally, you can pause or stop the playback in case someone calls or you need to use the restroom.

46 posted on 01/03/2006 7:21:42 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: HarleyLady27
>"I don't and WON'T pay to line their pockets, and I know alot of people that feel the same way...

I've taken that a step further, no cable or satelite either & I rarely watch air broadcast tv.

Have you seen "The Great Raid", totally awesome movie!!!!! It wasn't released in hardly any theatres, because of its Pro American theme, it is out on DVD now.

ABC CBS NBC CNN its all the SAME, Propaganda.
Might as well call them all AmeriJazerra.
Show them how much Gravitas Hugh Bris has. Vote with your remote! Shut down the Alphabet channels.

He's Got A Plan
Zippo Hero

Kill A Commie For Mommie
Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

47 posted on 01/03/2006 7:22:32 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic cerem)
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To: RayChuang88

I go to perhaps two movies every three years anymore. I don't feel that I've missed anything. I see two basic problems:
1. (Almost) any movie with a number at the end of the title is going to suck.

2. A dearth of good writers/writing. (This is even more of a problem in the television industry.) No originality any more. And they do every good idea to death. No one willing to take a risk on an unproven concept...SSZ


48 posted on 01/03/2006 7:23:56 AM PST by szweig
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To: mattdono

Along those lines, saw the Family Stone with my girlfriend over the weekend. It was ok, but the only "normal" couple were the two gay guys. Everyone else was portrayed as a disfunctional mess.


49 posted on 01/03/2006 7:25:02 AM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: RayChuang88
Even Fahrenheit 9/11--despite the fact just about every Freeper hated the movie--contributed to the huge spike in box office ticket sales with US$119 million in box office revenues.

Sure it did, but there were others that made more money, they just weren't as "surprising" as F911:

1	$441,226,247 	Shrek 2 
2	$373,585,825 	Spider-Man 2 
3	$370,274,604 	The Passion of the Christ 
4	$279,261,160 	Meet the Fockers 
5	$261,441,092 	The Incredibles 
6	$249,541,069 	Harry Potter - Azkaban 
7	$186,740,799 	The Day After Tomorrow 
8	$176,241,941 	The Bourne Supremacy 
9	$173,008,894 	National Treasure 
10	$162,775,358 	The Polar Express 
11	$160,861,908 	Shark Tale 
12	$144,801,023 	I, Robot 
13	$133,378,256 	Troy 
14	$125,544,280 	Ocean's Twelve 
15	$120,908,074 	50 First Dates 
16	$120,177,084 	Van Helsing 
17	$119,194,771 	Fahrenheit 9/11 

50 posted on 01/03/2006 7:25:23 AM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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To: HarleyLady27
I'm tired of the clowns that act in the movies thinking they are smarter than our President.

I agree with this. I don't really care so much that they disagreed with the President because I often do too especially on the issues of Federal spending and immigration. But the Hollywood crowd went way beyond disagreeing to down right anti-American and seditious. Many are also on the wrong side of the culture wars and I refuse to support their decadence. There is little forgiveness in me for these offenses and there are a lot of the actors who I can no longer stomach seeing their face even on free TV. I certainly will not pay to see them. This seems to be an ever expanding group. The latest is Heath Ledger who I used to kind of like but after his role in Buttcrack Mount'n is forever banned from my TV screen.

A couple other things are influencing my movie viewing behavior. First, the movie offerings stunk. There were very few must see movies in 2005. Second, home theater is getting much better and even if you buy the movies at first release on DVD this works out cheaper than a visit to the theater. I have not yet bought one of the new flat screen TVs (LCD or Plasma) but I intend to buy one after about one more step down the cost curve. I did invest in a really good audio video receiver and surround speaker system and Dolby 5.1 has made even my current TV amazingly better.

51 posted on 01/03/2006 7:25:56 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: All

Kong was the only movie I saw during the holidays.

I think they did some really cool things, but certain parts were a bit over the top.

I have to say, though, that the ending was excruciatingly poignant. I found myself really fighting back the tears until I realized that my big, brawny husband was wiping away a few himself. My husband is a hunter, and he has often talked about how much he admires the way the male of the species reigns dominant over his territory, and even though he will shoot a big buck, there's a part of him that mourns a little for the greatness of the animal. That's kind of how you feel at the end of Kong.


53 posted on 01/03/2006 7:30:48 AM PST by Madeleine Ward
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To: Blue Eyes

I havent seen the theater trailer, but the one I did see on the TV did not lead anyone to believe the two were Homo's.

As I say, I thought it was very deceptive.


54 posted on 01/03/2006 7:30:52 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Lucretia Borgia

$10 for a sitter!!! In our area, baby sitters get anywhere from 7-10 per hour, and that's if you can get to them first.


55 posted on 01/03/2006 7:30:55 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: RayChuang88

For all the hype about Brokeback Mountain, the following is a little marketplace reality:

Narnia (current estimated domestic receipts) - $225 million

Narnia (current estimated worldwide receipts) - $382 million

Brokeback Mountain (current domestic receipts) - $15 million

Both movies have been out for 4 weeks. While BBM is in fewer theaters, I would argue that that is again because the markets would not support more theaters.

The point is, for all the hype, BBM is a very, very narrowly supported movie - just as one would expect.


56 posted on 01/03/2006 7:31:14 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: mattdono

Might have something to do with the fact that more sheep are grazed out west than you would ever imagine, stories about cattlemen vs. sheep raisers to the contrary.


57 posted on 01/03/2006 7:31:23 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: jackbenimble

Our christmas for my hubby and I this year was the DVD and some movies that we both enjoy....next year comes the new T.V.

I did happen to go to a friend's house and watch 'War of the Worlds' on their t.v. and I was impressed with the make over, I don't like Tom Cruise, but the movie was great....they have the surround sound and the whole bit, it was a great night at the 'home movies'


58 posted on 01/03/2006 7:32:10 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: RayChuang88

Well, the hype over Brokeback Mountain seems to have fallen off lately. They released it into NY, LY and SF homo-cities and somehow thought its success there would mean a success in Peoria. But nobody is talking about how it is doing now, which tells me it went over like a hemmoroid in a bathhouse.

The reason Hollyweird is failing, is that the place is chock-full of nuts that have no idea how to produce movies that are interesting to the average person.


59 posted on 01/03/2006 7:32:12 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: RayChuang88

I'm with Rothman. Considering that domestic gross is only about 1/4 of what most movies make in their lifetime (overseas tickets, soundtrack, novelisation, DVD, pay-per-view, toys... the alternate sources of income are pretty impressive) that 9 billion in domestic grosses represents about 36 billion in total revenue. Hard to say the industry is on the ropes with that kind of cash coming in.


60 posted on 01/03/2006 7:34:49 AM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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