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There Will Be No Civil Liberties If We Lose This War
The New Media Journal.us ^ | December 30, 2005 | Frank Salvato

Posted on 01/01/2006 2:55:51 PM PST by SunSetSam

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To: conservativehoney

So, you're comfortable with the idea of wearing a head to toe garb with just your eyeballs visible behind a mesh screen?


61 posted on 01/01/2006 6:01:29 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: PresbyRev
'Give me liberty or give me death'

'Live free or die; Death is not the worst of evils'

The most appropriate responses whenever this supposed dilemma is brought up.

62 posted on 01/01/2006 6:03:37 PM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum." - They Live)
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To: Sola Veritas

Actually, the ACLU crowd is a classic example of someone who would cut of your nose to spite your face, but your point is well taken.


63 posted on 01/01/2006 6:04:32 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: pbrown
So, you're comfortable with the idea of wearing a head to toe garb with just your eyeballs visible behind a mesh screen?

Shame on this Administration for preying on the irrational fears of timid people like you.

64 posted on 01/01/2006 6:05:32 PM PST by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: brytlea
You mean to say it's not clear to you? Well, in that case, happily, you're not in charge!

Is a terrorist just the ones who blow up buildings or does that include those that aid them? And if so how do you define aid? Is aid limited to materially assisting them or does it include moral support? And if it includes moral support then does that support include anyone who opposes the U.S. actions in Iraq? See? The whole question of who is a terrorist depends on who is doing the defining. The question of what laws should be followed and what laws can be ignored shouldn't be.

65 posted on 01/01/2006 6:06:21 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: conservativehoney
Our president says that they hate us for our freedom, well why give them what they want, and make ourselves less free? Secondly, if you are afraid go into "protective custody" or go hide behind mommies skirt, because I don't want to give up my freedom because you're a chicken...I'm really confused about the changes my party is going through right now. I never thought I would witness the party I have always associated with courage and strengh wimp out like it is right now.

There are far too many appeasers on these boards. Probably because "their guy" is in charge.

66 posted on 01/01/2006 6:06:24 PM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum." - They Live)
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To: conservativehoney

And yes, your comment was in the right place.


67 posted on 01/01/2006 6:07:04 PM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum." - They Live)
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To: KDD

The ACLU isn't interested in protecting civil liberties. It's interested in bashing President Bush. In the same way it trashes Christian holidays and values, but has no problem when California school districts order students to be Muslims for three weeks and pray to Allah.


68 posted on 01/01/2006 6:08:55 PM PST by BW2221
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To: prairiebreeze

bump for later read


69 posted on 01/01/2006 6:10:04 PM PST by prairiebreeze (HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!)
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To: KDD

Lolol No sarcasm tag needed on your post. My tag line speaks for me. :-)


70 posted on 01/01/2006 6:13:08 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: SunSetSam

Liberals, Democrats and Socialists in this country are blinded by by their hate for anything Republican.

They are also desperate to obtain and keep power. They would let this country be overrun with a 100 million illegals, if they thought it would bring them the vote....which is where we are headed.


71 posted on 01/01/2006 6:14:45 PM PST by TheLion
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To: BW2221

The ACLU is not germane to my point.


72 posted on 01/01/2006 6:15:32 PM PST by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: Krusty
President Bush's policy only applies to international calls.

There have been so many stories on this it's hard to know what actually happened. I've heard international calls only then it was international calls terminating in the U.S., then it was international calls originating in the U.S.

When an enemy of this country makes a phone call from overseas into our country, the president, as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, has the constitutional right and the duty to examine that phone call. It all falls under the current war being waged against al-qaeda.

Where in the Constitution does it say that?

73 posted on 01/01/2006 6:16:12 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: alnick
That's ridiculous. Win and remain the great, free nation we are.

Free, when convenient.

74 posted on 01/01/2006 6:17:57 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: alnick
Nor did President Bush break the law. A leftist making an accusation does not make it so.

And you or I saying Bush didn't break the law doesn't make it so, either. All the facts need to be examined by competent authorities and the matter brought to trial if the evidence warrants. Only then can the statement that the law was or wasn't broken be made.

75 posted on 01/01/2006 6:19:53 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Where in the Constitution does it say that?

Right between abortion rights and gay marriages.

76 posted on 01/01/2006 6:20:08 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: mosquewatch.com

What good does it do to be alive, but not free.

"I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death."

Islam cannot defeat us militarily. The only way for us to lose our civil liberties is at the hand (and jackboot) of our own government but only if we let it happen.


77 posted on 01/01/2006 6:24:08 PM PST by Badray (In the hands of bureaucrat, a clip board can be as dangerous to liberty as a gun.)
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To: pbrown
Right between abortion rights and gay marriages.

So you believe those to be Constitutional?

78 posted on 01/01/2006 6:26:07 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Badray

Crap! I forgot to ping you Badray! Head here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1550421/posts


79 posted on 01/01/2006 6:32:46 PM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum." - They Live)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Both of those events took place at a time when more people and more people in government had an appreciation for liberty -- despite the extraconstitutional measure taken by government. Both were still wrong.

Nowadays, more people seem to care about safety, not liberty.


80 posted on 01/01/2006 6:41:02 PM PST by Badray (In the hands of bureaucrat, a clip board can be as dangerous to liberty as a gun.)
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