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Bush retreats to ranch, readies to launch agenda
NY Times/timesargus ^ | January 1, 2006 | DAVID E. SANGER

Posted on 01/01/2006 12:32:44 PM PST by ncountylee

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To: ncountylee

The only value from this editorial is that it's been confirmed the speeches and offensive from the President will continue very soon. Good news. Other then that it's rat cage lining.


61 posted on 01/01/2006 2:26:14 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
I watched the Boston Globe do this exact sort of thing for many years before I finally ended my subscription back in the early 90s.I used to think that I was alone in so many ways living here among all these Kerry and Kennedy voters.

I really appreciated your highlighting of this article here today.
62 posted on 01/01/2006 3:42:24 PM PST by Radix (Senator Kennedy actually criticized the President for acting as if he is above the Law!)
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To: ncountylee

This after the paper made itself utterly foolish with the NSA leaks? Who cares for whatever else they have to say?


63 posted on 01/01/2006 3:51:55 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: ncountylee
For six days, President Bush has stayed in nearly complete isolation on his ranch here — just mountain-biking and brush-clearing, the White House insisted daily, and seeing only one visitor, his mother-in-law, Jenna Welch.

I can relate. When my mother-in-law visits I spend a lot of time in isolation or else out doors moving stuff from here to there and back again too.
64 posted on 01/01/2006 4:11:26 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Principled
no tax reform/SS problems poised to remove the republican majorities?

This was your post and I responded to the tax reform and SS part, but you responded to nothing - save to mention guest worker. Did you see any legislation? Who writes the legislation? It is not the president - it is the congress. Could I suggest that when posting you respond to your comments and what people mention to you about your comments.

65 posted on 01/01/2006 4:41:07 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Nothing wrong with any of that. He'd fit right in with me and my mates.

Plus, he gets along with his mother-in-law! He's a better man than I am, gunga din.

66 posted on 01/01/2006 5:11:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Reagan Man
Interesting that you draw dire conclusions about the President's 'lousy legacy' based on the musings of Kristol.

You would be far more effective in your Bush bashing if you stuck with facts, and not the predictions of media talking heads.

(But you serial bashers consistently trust the media more than you trust the President, don't you? A fascinating weakness in your thought process.....)

67 posted on 01/01/2006 8:36:10 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
I know you love GW Bush more then life itself, but we live in the United States of America. If I want to exercise my right to free speech and engage in political dissent, I will do so. I cherish my Constitutional right to express myself and neither you nor anyone else will stifle my comments. If speaking openly about the downside of the Bush Presidency upsets you so much, too bad. The Founding Fathers upset a lot of folks too. I'm in good company.

You really need to get a grip on yourself. Bush is no saint and he's not perfect. Bad policy decisions have been made by this President and the GOP controlled Congress. Opportunities to advance a more conservative agenda for America have been tossed away in favor of more spending on social welfare and entitlement programs, expansion of the federal bureaucracy and total opposition to real immigration reform. Those are the facts and that is the truth. Obviosuly, you can't handle the truth.

68 posted on 01/01/2006 9:30:23 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man; Principled; MNJohnnie
With a name like Reagan Man I am surprised you aren't aware that when Reagan tried to veto spending bills the Dems shut the government down completely. The Dems and MSM blamed Reagan for it.

Reagan was conned by the Dems to raise taxes, as they did GHW Bush, but the Dems reneged on their promise to cut $2 in spending for every $1 in tax increase, then they blamed Reagan for the budget deficit. Reagan also was the first to institute an amnesty for illegals, and again was not supported by the Democrats in reducing illegals because the Democrats wanted more illegals for their own socialist purposes.

Then you have the audacity to criticize others for opposing you.

If there is anyone on Free Republic who exhibits a proclivity for ignorance and arrogance, its you, mister status quo centrist.

It's simply amazing how you go out of your way on thread after thread, making endless excuses for this President on issues where he has clearly made the wrong policy decision.

The point is it is very easy to spout off on FR that Bush ought to do this and do that when if he did what you insist more problems would be created than solved. I'll be happy to discuss any issues you would like and point out somethings you may have overlooked. At least I hope you have overlooked them. I would hate to think you were dumb. :-)

69 posted on 01/02/2006 1:27:59 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: q_an_a
no tax reform/SS problems poised to remove the republican majorities?

This was your post

No it wasn't. This was my first post:
I wonder if he'll pretend there is no illegal immigration problem and no tax reform/SS problems poised to remove the republican majorities?

WRT the rest of your post, I have no idea what you're talking about. Again, since you missed it before... I believe the republicans will take a hit unless something gets done on illegal immigration and SS/tax reform.

Note that I said nothing about whose fault it is this time or the first time. Nor did I say anything about legislation or anything else! Where you dreamed that up I don't know.

I stand by my statement; repubs are open to attack and subsequent losses on immigration and SS/tax reform.

BTW you can suggest anything you want about how someone else posts. I'll comply, really.... just keep waiting for me to post just how you like it... it'll happen soon... really... just keep waiting.... don't go to sleep though... just keep waiting....lol.

70 posted on 01/02/2006 5:05:19 AM PST by Principled
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To: Reagan Man
OK........your first sentence is filled with absurd histrionics (and so is everything else that follows), so cut it out. Try to think and respond rationally, OK?

I'm not restricting your free speech. I'm wondering why you drew conclusions about the President's legacy based on media speculation.

Answer my question without the ludicrous emotional outbursts. I want to get inside your brain, and see how it functions.

What makes a person like you draw extreme conclusions based on media speculation? What makes you consistently side with the media against the President?

If you can't be rational, then don't bother to respond. I know you're capable of rational discussion at some level, but this post of yours sounds like you're 9 years old.

I'm looking for a serious and logical answer to your response to Kristol's hypothesis. I don't want to be subjected to your childish and defensive non-responses. If I lost my ability to reason (as you appear to have done), I might just start to think that YOU were attempting to deny ME my freedom of speech.

71 posted on 01/02/2006 8:56:41 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
.... I am surprised you aren't aware ...

Whatever gave you that impression, didn't come from me. Those are your words. The topic of this thread is PresBush, not PresReagan. Attempting to change the subject, doesn't alter the facts.

>>>>Then you have the audacity to criticize others for opposing you.

In America, free speech is guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. In fact, our 1ST amendment right to free speech was originally designed to specifically address political dissent in Colonial America.

>>>>The point is it is very easy to spout off on FR .... I would hate to think you were dumb.

I don't agree with you that engaging in free speech on political issues is spouting off. And IMO, "dumb" is a good label for people who come on FR to attack conservatives for engaging in free speech and political dissent.

FR is a conservative website. FReepers are suppose to be championing "causes which further conservatism in America". Not liberalism and not RINOism. Conservatism believes in limited government, not bigger government that wastes the taxpayers money and expands bureaucracy.

72 posted on 01/02/2006 9:02:01 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man
Whatever gave you that impression, didn't come from me. Those are your words. The topic of this thread is PresBush, not PresReagan. Attempting to change the subject, doesn't alter the facts.

I am not changing the subject but only adding perspective for a self-professed Reagan Man. You seem content to bash Bush for the same things you probably praised Reagan for. I was just pointing out that Reagan, too, had to deal with the political realities of his day.

In America, free speech is guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. In fact, our 1ST amendment right to free speech was originally designed to specifically address political dissent in Colonial America.

You are right, audacity and ignorance are protected speech in this country, as long as it is politically correct. :-) It takes wisdom and discipline not to display them.

I don't agree with you that engaging in free speech on political issues is spouting off. And IMO, "dumb" is a good label for people who come on FR to attack conservatives for engaging in free speech and political dissent.

I am attacking brashness and ignorance, not conservatism. Those with weak arguments frequently retreat behind the shield of "Don't pick on me! I am just exercising my 1st amendment rights."

FR is a conservative website. FReepers are suppose to be championing "causes which further conservatism in America". Not liberalism and not RINOism. Conservatism believes in limited government, not bigger government that wastes the taxpayers money and expands bureaucracy.

If you and others of your stripe don't wise up you are going to lose your rights, all of them, to the Communists/Democrats by splitting the Republican Party. Like it or not the RP are our only chance. As far as rinos, they are elected by their peers. I didn't elect them. Both my Senators and my Representative are stellar. Yours??

You are in Colorado. Can you get rid of McCain, Snowe, Chafee, Shays, Collins, Hagel, Specter, Graham, or any of the others that you disagree with. No you can't, you have to deal with them. That is what Bush and the RP has to do, also. Get real!

Few of us approve of everything Bush does but in most cases there are gains behind what looks like a political cave in to the Democrats. The Education Bill gave us accountability and has greatly angered the NEA and the left now that it has kicked in. That's a plus.

The Medicare Drug plan introduces the private sector into Medicare and attempts to keep our drug industry afloat against the onslaught of the Democrats/Trial lawyers.

A guest worker program of some kind is going to be a necessary part of the border solution.

Look at the facts, the political realities, and stop carrying water for the Democrats!

73 posted on 01/02/2006 9:29:31 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: ohioWfan
If anyone engages in histrionics on FR, its you, ohioW(hining)fan. A look at your last post proves you're not interested in engaging in any rational, logical debate. You sit around waiting for anyone to offer up criticism of your sainted GW Bush. Then like a jack-in-the-box, you pop up and lash out at the nearest offender. LOL

If you must know. Kristol's remarks reached a set of conclusions about what should be Bush`s policy for the next year and they sound rational and logical to me. But they have very little to do with advancing a conservative governing agenda of fiscal responsibility. That was my point. I used Kristol's remarks as a segue to criticizing PresBush`s status quo policy agenda of more liberal spending, bigger government bureaucracy and a continued open border policy that endangers America's security.

74 posted on 01/02/2006 10:32:20 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man
Lousy legacy.

Well, there's not a Freeper here who doesn't know that that must thrill you to no end.

75 posted on 01/02/2006 10:35:50 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: ncountylee
For six days, President Bush has stayed in nearly complete isolation on his ranch here — just mountain-biking and brush-clearing, the White House insisted daily, and seeing only one visitor, his mother-in-law, Jenna Welch. He never even ventured into this little town of 600, not even to the cheeseburger joint that he often uses as a political tool to show that he is in touch with his neighbors.

Oh jeez. Six whole days. Didn't even go into town for a cheeseburger. Let me peek outside...is the country still there?

76 posted on 01/02/2006 10:36:05 AM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Mike Darancette
I love the title.

Me, too. Just more evidence that "somebody" had a miserable Christmas holiday in horrible (non-trendy) Crawford!

77 posted on 01/02/2006 10:36:54 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
>>>>I am not changing the subject but only adding perspective for a self-professed Reagan Man.

Call it what you like. You are STILL attempting to change the subject.

>>>>I am attacking brashness and ignorance, not conservatism.

You're acting like a baffoon. First you say, "Then you have the audacity to criticize others for opposing you". I did nothing of the sort. You brought Reagan into the debate. Not me. I simply defended my right to exercise my 1ST amendment rights. Period. You change the subject to include Reagan, in order to attack me for criticizing Bush's liberal policy agenda. And I'm being audacious? WOW Again, the thread is about PresBush. No one else. Your efforts to obfuscate the issue of the thread are noted.

>>>Few of us approve of everything Bush does ....

From what I've seen in your posts you approve of everything Bush does. Anyone who can defend the new trillion dollar Medicare prescription drug program, the largest government entitlement program since Medicare itself was created under LBJ in 1965, is neither fiscally responsible or conservative.

78 posted on 01/02/2006 10:37:18 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: MNJohnnie
I wonder if old "Conservatives" will wake up in 2006 to how stupid it is for them to post day after day nothing but foaming at the mouth rants at their OWN side.

ROFLMAO. Well done!

79 posted on 01/02/2006 10:37:50 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Howlin

Another offended Bush fan. LOL


80 posted on 01/02/2006 10:38:11 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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