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Has Canadian-American relations reached a new low? Note - plans are from 1930! However, replace 'Briton' with 'China' or 'Russia' and the plan has some modern merits. Instead of Canada allowing a foreign invasion through a foreign alliance. Canada, with it;s lack of military and security, may be an unwilling accomplice to potential adversaries in the future. This should serve as a warning on what might (big might) be in store for Canada if the security of the U.S. were severely threatened from the north. Protection of Canada would not be a tidy, political affair. It would really be potection of the U.S.
1 posted on 12/31/2005 11:02:16 AM PST by doc30
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Canada, identified as Crimson, would be invaded to prevent the Britons from using it as a staging ground to attack the United States.

They've done that twice, during the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.

2 posted on 12/31/2005 11:05:29 AM PST by Brilliant
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Good point.


3 posted on 12/31/2005 11:11:21 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion never saved a soul - that's Jesus' job.)
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From NRO -

"ATTACK PLAN RED, EH? [Jonah Goldberg]

Lots and lots of this sort of email coming in:

Jonah:

War Plan Red has been known for years. Although the plan was declassified in 1974, the 1935 Army war games were fairly open that they were based on war with Great Britain involving an invasion of Canada. Every couple of years, it gets pulled out, usually by a left wing Canadian professor who wants to use it to tar Canadian conservatives as making common cause with the hated Americans. About 8 years ago, it was even argued that the location of Fort Drum in upstate New York was to prepare for an invasion of Canada (instead of being a pork barrel project by Senator D'Amato).

It is no surprise it comes up now. Canada is in the midst of a general election and the liberals are performing badly. This could be 3-5% to the Liberals (or at least away from the Tories).


Posted at 03:14 PM"

http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_12_25_corner-archive.asp#085632


4 posted on 12/31/2005 11:11:53 AM PST by frankjr
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Blame Canada
5 posted on 12/31/2005 11:11:56 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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We shoulda done this long ago! I love it!


6 posted on 12/31/2005 11:12:57 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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Interesting but why should the UK have wanted to invade in (19)20s and 30s ?


8 posted on 12/31/2005 11:14:40 AM PST by 1066AD
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In 1940, the United States and Canada came up with plans on what to do if the Nazis should capture the British Isles. The plan involved urging the remnants of the Royal Fleet to head toward Iceland or Bermuda, where joint US-Canadian forces would help establish forward operating bases, as well as securing control of all other British colonies and assets throughout the world.

When Churchill found out about these plans, he was rather ticked, but I can see where having things worked out in advance would have been a great help.

10 posted on 12/31/2005 11:16:45 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson
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We dont want Canada, too many liberals, lousy health care, that is overpriced, we sure dont want to have a bunch of french speaking prisoners waving white flags at us all the time.


11 posted on 12/31/2005 11:17:46 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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We'll simply move in with tanks ala Grenada and play Celine Dion tapes full blast until Canada surrenders.


12 posted on 12/31/2005 11:18:07 AM PST by hershey
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Judging from the strife between the US and Canada today and the way the Canadians have kissed up to the Chinese of late, this plan needs to be updated. The American Hating Socialists, who run Canada these days, are definitely capable of betraying the United States. The only ingredient they are missing is courage. if another power such as the PRC can supply both the power and courage, Canada would sell us out in a heartbeat.
15 posted on 12/31/2005 11:21:47 AM PST by wmileo
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Aha, we see that only years before, the Canajuns were talking peace while they too were preparing for war...
17 posted on 12/31/2005 11:28:09 AM PST by mikrofon (BTW, they can have Buffalo now if they want.)
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Nobody down here gives a damn about Canada. Certainly not enough to go to war with it.


20 posted on 12/31/2005 11:30:49 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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We should go south first ... THEN North


21 posted on 12/31/2005 11:32:02 AM PST by clamper1797 (Proud member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club VA-93 aboard the USS Midway CVA-41 1972-1973)
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Of course we have contingency plans - for every corner of the planet. I assume that our plans for Canada have evolved somewhat since they no longer have a military.


22 posted on 12/31/2005 11:33:50 AM PST by SmithL (Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Lift up your gates and sing, Hosana in the highest! Hosana to your King!)
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Canada? Is that a country or something?


23 posted on 12/31/2005 11:34:20 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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Send in the clowns
There ought to be clowns
Maybe next year...


24 posted on 12/31/2005 11:35:33 AM PST by Liberty Valance ("Can't hide Freedom's song." ~ Starwise)
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We need to update these plans.

Initial invasion would be a couple of Marines penetrating Quebec. The French response would be immediate unconditional surrender, splitting Canada in two. Alaskan citizens would be given letters of marque allowing them to keep anything they can take in Canada especially beer. Acting on this information, British Columbia would rise in rebellion and join the U.S. as the 51st state. Idaho would annex the area between as most residents need to expand their compounds. Finally, a temporary ban on North Atlantic fishing would motivate the down East Yankees to pacify Eastern Canada with uncharacteristically dry sarcastic humorless humor. Victory.

27 posted on 12/31/2005 11:39:35 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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It starts with a seaborne assault on Halifax to cut Canada off from its British ally

The irony is that a few years later, Halifax Harbor and the Bedford Basin just outside it were the assembly points for the great Atlantic convoys of WW II, which aided the very survival of Great Britain. The Royal Navy considered Halifax during the War to be the most important port in the world.So there we were, Halifax loaded with US naval and merchant marine personnel, and we didn't even try to make a move!

28 posted on 12/31/2005 11:39:44 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Ice-brewed beer and Trish Stratus. Canada has plenty we'd want in our empire.

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30 posted on 12/31/2005 11:53:24 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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I don't think we'd need a plan to take out Canada, personally....


34 posted on 12/31/2005 12:03:59 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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