Posted on 12/30/2005 4:23:00 PM PST by Kitten Festival
Guatemala City, Dec 29 (EFE).- Guatemalan Vice President Eduardo Stein on Thursday described as "an insult to Latin America" the U.S. proposal to build a wall along its border with Mexico.
"We take it as a total insult to all Latin America that a government calling itself a friend and partner in the region only wants our money and our goods, but sees our people as if they were an epidemic. They treat us as if we were a sub-hemisphere of criminals," Stein told reporters.
The vice president was talking about United States plans to build an wall along its border with Mexico to halt the thousands of immigrants that every day try to enter the country illegally. The U.S. House of Representatives approved the bill two weeks ago.
To reporters' questions about whether U.S. migration policy could "chill" diplomatic ties between Guatemala and the United States, Stein answered that "there will be a need to reconsider" relations.
"Not just by building walls and passing tough laws that criminalize the search for better economic opportunities" can migration problems be solved, he said. The U.S. proposal is not only "absolutely intolerable and inhuman, (but) it forces us to consider other choices in terms of international alliances," Stein said.
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If the MS13 fits, wear it...at home.
but sees our people as if they were an epidemic.
Not if they get visas, are not gang bangers or other criminal types, and are willing to renew or else go home when their visa expires.
Senor Stein, if it is so terrible to enforce immigration laws, and take positive, non-lethal means to do so, would you mind telling me just exactly what would happen to ME, if I sneaked across any of you & your buddies' borders, and set up shop underground?
"What's that you said, Senor? You'd what my WHICH? Now, that, sir, is just downright unfriendly. Fighting words, in fact!"
Well, if you didnt keep sending MS13 up here it wouldnt be necessary..
How much money is being sent to Guatemala from Guatemalans in the USA illegally?
Which border is easier to cross for Guatemalans the Southern Border of Mexico or the US border?
How many Guatemalan refugees is Chavez willing to take?
Beautiful! No explanations, no justifications. This is OUR country and we will build a ANY KIND of a wall WHEREVER we want. I was looking for the right words. You said it, meema!
And your point?
You know, I distinctly remember having read once that the Guatemalans who enter Mexico illegally in hopes of eventually landing here are imprisoned in concentration camps in Mexico and used as slave labor if they're apprehended. Wish I had the article.
It's not. We will have the same policy after the wall that we had before the wall.
The difference is that we will have stopped line-jumpers.
Well, the shoe does fit. Show me five Latin American nations that aren't corrupt to the core.
Central America.....isn't that where Guatemala is, that is now threatening the U.S. for the proposed fence between Mexico & the U.S. More & more countries in South America are turning to left-wing socialism & outright communism, and my point is that as long as these countries think they can blackmail us because of a dependence or even a perceived dependence on oil, they will continue to do so. When they realize they can take their oil and shove it up their __ses, then maybe they won't be so quick to play the blackmail game. I don't want to see countries in South America or Central America turn to communism.... but unfortunately there seem to be left-wing, socialist, communist candidates who are playing on anti-U.S. propoganda and getting elected. Once they're in (and validated by our own leftist stooge Jimmah Cartah), then they trample liberties & freedom in their countries while bashing the U.S. and in effect trying to blackmail us to support them or buy their oil. My point is, if they don't have anything to blackmail us for, I think their propoganda strategy will backfire as (hopefully) the people in those countries will think twice before wanting to live in a Cuba-style totalitarian dictatorship.
Suffice it to say that the real Ronald Reagan (may he R.I.P.) would snort at your mewling "logic," snicker at your blatant historical distortions, and guffaw at the notion that we should cower in fear at the pronouncements of some tin horn apparatchik in Latin America.
You need to buy, borrow, or steal a clue.
Bureau of Labor Statistics, Nov '05
We needed this wall 20 years ago.
Look it up since you obviously have no recollection.
I never suggested for a moment that we should cower in fear of any pronouncement from a politician down there. I suggested that we should shrug it off.
Rarely have I seen such a lack of reading comprehension.
Many thanks! As you can see, I feel very strongly about this.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
I think the wall was an incredibly stupid idea, because it's simply bad press and is not going to be effective. It would have been much more effective to challenge the corrupt and dysfunctional government of Mexico to actually do something about their illegal immigration problems - that is, Mexico shoots illegal immigrants when they try to crosss its borders, but Mexican criminals and politicians make their living by sending droves of illegal immigrants across our border. And these immigrants are not even Mexicans: they're Arabs and Chinese, who have come up with the money to pay off Mexican officials. But that's okay, because the entire upper class and the political class of SOcialist Mexico is making money off of this.
Someday we'll have a US government with enough balls to tell Mexico to straighten up and fly right, but it probably won't be in my lifetime. In the meantime, the wall is a stupid gesture that only makes us look like idiots and provides propaganda for all our enemies.
I've lived and worked in Latin America for almost 10-years, and have come to the conclusion that it is not possible for a North American to understand the mind of a Latino.
Yeah, so let's leave our borders wide open and unprotected so we can be subverted by marxists too.
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That and the fact that Latin Americans send back billions (with a B) of dollars to their home countries. I read an article saying that Mexicans in the USA send to Mexico between $10 and $15-billion dollars every year. It is no wonder Mexico president Fox and this Guatemalan nit wit don't want the border closed...they will have to deal with tremendous poverty in their own failed, miserable countries.
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