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Guatemala calls "insult to Latin America" proposed U.S. wall
Agencia EFE ^ | Dec. 29, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 12/30/2005 4:23:00 PM PST by Kitten Festival

Guatemala City, Dec 29 (EFE).- Guatemalan Vice President Eduardo Stein on Thursday described as "an insult to Latin America" the U.S. proposal to build a wall along its border with Mexico.

"We take it as a total insult to all Latin America that a government calling itself a friend and partner in the region only wants our money and our goods, but sees our people as if they were an epidemic. They treat us as if we were a sub-hemisphere of criminals," Stein told reporters.

The vice president was talking about United States plans to build an wall along its border with Mexico to halt the thousands of immigrants that every day try to enter the country illegally. The U.S. House of Representatives approved the bill two weeks ago.

To reporters' questions about whether U.S. migration policy could "chill" diplomatic ties between Guatemala and the United States, Stein answered that "there will be a need to reconsider" relations.

"Not just by building walls and passing tough laws that criminalize the search for better economic opportunities" can migration problems be solved, he said. The U.S. proposal is not only "absolutely intolerable and inhuman, (but) it forces us to consider other choices in terms of international alliances," Stein said.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; borderfence; china; coldwar2; communism; criminals; entitlement; freeimmigration; guatemala; hugochavez; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; insult; invaders; invasion; migra; russia; snub; threaten; undocumented; us; wall
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To: Kitten Festival
They treat us as if we were a sub-hemisphere of criminals," Stein told reporters.

If the MS13 fits, wear it...at home.

but sees our people as if they were an epidemic.

Not if they get visas, are not gang bangers or other criminal types, and are willing to renew or else go home when their visa expires.

Senor Stein, if it is so terrible to enforce immigration laws, and take positive, non-lethal means to do so, would you mind telling me just exactly what would happen to ME, if I sneaked across any of you & your buddies' borders, and set up shop underground?

"What's that you said, Senor? You'd what my WHICH? Now, that, sir, is just downright unfriendly. Fighting words, in fact!"

61 posted on 12/30/2005 6:30:31 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Kitten Festival
but sees our people as if they were an epidemic.

Correct. Epidemics of tuberculosis, leprosy and hepatitis.
62 posted on 12/30/2005 7:02:43 PM PST by Selene
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To: Kitten Festival
Guatemalan Vice President Eduardo Stein on Thursday described as "an insult to Latin America" the U.S. proposal to build a wall along its border with Mexico.

Well, if you didnt keep sending MS13 up here it wouldnt be necessary..

63 posted on 12/30/2005 7:04:27 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: Kitten Festival

64 posted on 12/30/2005 7:12:59 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: Kitten Festival
"We take it as a total insult to all Latin America that a government calling itself a friend and partner in the region only wants our money and our goods, but sees our people as if they were an epidemic.

How much money is being sent to Guatemala from Guatemalans in the USA illegally?

Which border is easier to cross for Guatemalans the Southern Border of Mexico or the US border?

65 posted on 12/30/2005 7:51:31 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Kitten Festival
He's threatening to join Hugo Chavez

How many Guatemalan refugees is Chavez willing to take?

66 posted on 12/30/2005 7:54:03 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: meema

Beautiful! No explanations, no justifications. This is OUR country and we will build a ANY KIND of a wall WHEREVER we want. I was looking for the right words. You said it, meema!


67 posted on 12/30/2005 8:00:34 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Kitten Festival
"...but sees our people as if they were an epidemic."

And your point?

68 posted on 12/30/2005 8:01:46 PM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: Mike Darancette

You know, I distinctly remember having read once that the Guatemalans who enter Mexico illegally in hopes of eventually landing here are imprisoned in concentration camps in Mexico and used as slave labor if they're apprehended. Wish I had the article.


69 posted on 12/30/2005 8:03:07 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Kitten Festival
Guy thinks this is some sort of change in the US immigration policy.

It's not. We will have the same policy after the wall that we had before the wall.

The difference is that we will have stopped line-jumpers.

70 posted on 12/30/2005 8:31:53 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Kitten Festival
"They treat us as if we were a sub-hemisphere of criminals," Stein told reporters.

Well, the shoe does fit. Show me five Latin American nations that aren't corrupt to the core.

71 posted on 12/30/2005 9:55:23 PM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: Dog Gone

Central America.....isn't that where Guatemala is, that is now threatening the U.S. for the proposed fence between Mexico & the U.S. More & more countries in South America are turning to left-wing socialism & outright communism, and my point is that as long as these countries think they can blackmail us because of a dependence or even a perceived dependence on oil, they will continue to do so. When they realize they can take their oil and shove it up their __ses, then maybe they won't be so quick to play the blackmail game. I don't want to see countries in South America or Central America turn to communism.... but unfortunately there seem to be left-wing, socialist, communist candidates who are playing on anti-U.S. propoganda and getting elected. Once they're in (and validated by our own leftist stooge Jimmah Cartah), then they trample liberties & freedom in their countries while bashing the U.S. and in effect trying to blackmail us to support them or buy their oil. My point is, if they don't have anything to blackmail us for, I think their propoganda strategy will backfire as (hopefully) the people in those countries will think twice before wanting to live in a Cuba-style totalitarian dictatorship.


72 posted on 12/30/2005 10:06:48 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Dog Gone
That is such a smarmy distortion of history that one scarcely knows where to begin.

Suffice it to say that the real Ronald Reagan (may he R.I.P.) would snort at your mewling "logic," snicker at your blatant historical distortions, and guffaw at the notion that we should cower in fear at the pronouncements of some tin horn apparatchik in Latin America.

You need to buy, borrow, or steal a clue.

73 posted on 12/31/2005 1:14:25 AM PST by A Jovial Cad ("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -General Curtis LeMay)
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To: Kitten Festival
When the unemployment rate for blacks drops well under 10% (it was 10.6% in Nov 2005, nearly double or triple other groups), then we can give "guest workers" even a seconds consideration. Until then: no green card, no work. Not legal and dropping an anchor baby? Off you go, back to your homeland.

Bureau of Labor Statistics, Nov '05

We needed this wall 20 years ago.

74 posted on 12/31/2005 1:14:53 AM PST by newzjunkey ((Tagline on holiday.))
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To: A Jovial Cad
If anyone knows how to distort, it's you. 25 years ago, Central America was a collection of tinpot dictatorships, Sandinista governments, and ongoing civil wars.

Look it up since you obviously have no recollection.

I never suggested for a moment that we should cower in fear of any pronouncement from a politician down there. I suggested that we should shrug it off.

Rarely have I seen such a lack of reading comprehension.

75 posted on 12/31/2005 7:34:39 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: definitelynotaliberal
Beautiful! No explanations, no justifications.
You said it, meema!

Many thanks! As you can see, I feel very strongly about this.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!

76 posted on 12/31/2005 9:02:53 AM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Kitten Festival

I think the wall was an incredibly stupid idea, because it's simply bad press and is not going to be effective. It would have been much more effective to challenge the corrupt and dysfunctional government of Mexico to actually do something about their illegal immigration problems - that is, Mexico shoots illegal immigrants when they try to crosss its borders, but Mexican criminals and politicians make their living by sending droves of illegal immigrants across our border. And these immigrants are not even Mexicans: they're Arabs and Chinese, who have come up with the money to pay off Mexican officials. But that's okay, because the entire upper class and the political class of SOcialist Mexico is making money off of this.

Someday we'll have a US government with enough balls to tell Mexico to straighten up and fly right, but it probably won't be in my lifetime. In the meantime, the wall is a stupid gesture that only makes us look like idiots and provides propaganda for all our enemies.


77 posted on 12/31/2005 9:09:07 AM PST by livius
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To: andyk

I've lived and worked in Latin America for almost 10-years, and have come to the conclusion that it is not possible for a North American to understand the mind of a Latino.


78 posted on 12/31/2005 9:13:32 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Dog Gone
The merits of the wall or lack thereof aside, we don't want Central America to slip into the clutches of Chavez and Castro.
We've already seen what that can do.

Yeah, so let's leave our borders wide open and unprotected so we can be subverted by marxists too.
</sarcasm>

79 posted on 12/31/2005 9:13:51 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: RegulatorCountry
This genius just can't figure out that the real insult is coming from his own people, voting with their feet.

That and the fact that Latin Americans send back billions (with a B) of dollars to their home countries. I read an article saying that Mexicans in the USA send to Mexico between $10 and $15-billion dollars every year. It is no wonder Mexico president Fox and this Guatemalan nit wit don't want the border closed...they will have to deal with tremendous poverty in their own failed, miserable countries.

80 posted on 12/31/2005 9:18:18 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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