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Oil guzzling cars obviously, a loss.

We all know about the unions.

Ugly cars to no end.

Guess quality is still perceived as poor.

Now, chinese are not even in it yet. They may as well chalk another loss on that one,

I invision the world where you go to wallyworld, buy your ripsoon pants, and groceries and drive away in peoples car. Carl marx would be proud.

Actually think they look as bad as GM product but will cost much much less… a winning formula cheap trans for the worker bees.


1 posted on 12/30/2005 2:33:30 PM PST by Flavius
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Are these cars pictured the Chinese models? If so, what's so bad looking about the red one?


2 posted on 12/30/2005 2:41:59 PM PST by PCBMan (You can't make the poor rich by making the rich poor. (A. Laffer))
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This article is unfair to Chrysler whos sales are up from a year ago and the company is doing goood, note how high the stock price is compared to GM and Ford.

The claim that "Big Three market share is declining" is technically accurate, but unfair. Only Ford and GM have lost share this year. The Chrysler Group U.S. market share grew a full half-point last month and is up for the year. Through November, our sales were up 5 percent for the year.

The difference in quality among automakers as measured by J.D. Power is down to fractions. This year, our quality was only two-tenths of a point per vehicle out of first place—and less than a tenth of a point per vehicle away from Honda. The big story and long-term trend on quality is that it's up across the industry. All automakers are building high-quality vehicles. The Chrysler Group improved its J.D. Power IQS score 14 years in a row.


Toyota recalled 2.2 million vehicles this year. We've recalled 750,000. GM has recalled 4 million. Ford has recalled 6 million.


3 posted on 12/30/2005 2:44:27 PM PST by brainstem223
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Their problems are my gains...bought a great new 2005 Silverado for a song last April.


4 posted on 12/30/2005 2:45:35 PM PST by Fledermaus (Please explain the difference between Al-Qaeda and the Left? Anyone? Anyone?)
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To improve their market shares, IMHO, they need to give people the impression that they can make a good small car. Maybe they can already, but for so many years the American-made 4-cylinder engines and their mating transmissions were a joke compared to those from the Japanese.


7 posted on 12/30/2005 3:10:04 PM PST by libertylover (Bush spied. Terrorists died. Democrats cried.)
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The problem was that US automakes have been shortsighted for years. GM made its decsion in the mid 90s when it dedicated so much of its plant capacty to trucks and SUVs, while ignoreing any imporvment to its mid and full sized car lines(this is the segment that the big 3 were known for and what made them unique).

Now the platforms that GMs mid and full sized cars are based on are close to 18 years old, their designs look unispired, and while their drive trains have become better(The Impala SS has a V8 finally), it is far too late, at least 10 years too late.


8 posted on 12/30/2005 3:14:33 PM PST by RFT1
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American car and truck quality has increased dramatically over the last few years. Having spent a short time in auto sales, and still having many friends in the industry, I think this quote from the article tells the real story: ""The programs were more about 'reallocating sales' than stimulating demand," Barry said in a research note."

For numerous years now, American auto manufacturers were offering 0% interest, "no money down, and then followed by "Employee Pricing".

What has happened over the last few years is that they have only accelerated the normal consumer's buying cycle. People that would have waited another year or two, before they traded in, took advantage of the low pricing and interest rates. In other words, they sold vehicles 1 - 2 years ahead of the normal ownership cycle. That is why there is a glut of used vehicles on the market. That is also why people are not buying new cars now.

Almost everyone who would have purchased a new vehicle over the next 2-3 years has already done so.

11 posted on 12/30/2005 3:51:04 PM PST by 2111USMC
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Dec. to Cap Dismal Year for Automakers

translation:
Dec. to Cap Dismal Year for Dumb-@ss Detroit Automakers

My inexpert prediction:
1. Chrysler will thrive long-term (as they are actually cutting
waste even when not under extreme pressure)
2. Ford might meld improved technology with their "green" image
and yet wrest some sales from competitors. Decent chance for survival
if they can pull off their plan to lay off 30,000 unionists and
trim other fat.
3. GM: will continue down their path of mediocrity. Will live for years
simply because they are so large. Most likely will go the way of the
dinosaurs without RADICAL change.
14 posted on 12/30/2005 4:27:29 PM PST by VOA
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