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FEMA spent nearly $274,000 to store relief ice in Portland
AP ^ | 12-29-05

Posted on 12/29/2005 7:22:19 PM PST by systematic

PORTLAND, Maine --The Federal Emergency Management Agency spent nearly $274,000 to store thousands of bags of ice in Portland that were initially bought for hurricane relief efforts more than 1,500 miles away.

In a letter to U.S. Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, a FEMA official said the agency stored 250 truckloads of ice at Americold storage facility in Portland after it was determined that the agency's supply of ice exceeded the demand following Hurricane Katrina.

The agency said it was able to later use the ice for Hurricanes Ophelia and Rita, which came ashore after Katrina made landfall in late August.

By the time the ice was totally removed from the Americold facility in late October, FEMA had spent $273,942 for storage fees, according to the letter from Michael Lowder, deputy director of FEMA's response division.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fema; hurricanekatrina
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1 posted on 12/29/2005 7:22:21 PM PST by systematic
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Well... so? They shoulda' just let it melt?

Emergencies require making lots of decisions in short order... making preparations, some of which end up being unneeded.

Yeesh. I'm no fan of government agencies, but FEMA can't buy a break from the press.


2 posted on 12/29/2005 7:26:01 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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To: systematic

Now THAT's pork!


3 posted on 12/29/2005 7:26:26 PM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: Ramius
Well... so? They shoulda' just let it melt?

We Mainiacs like when folks come in, drop cash, and leave.
The saying goes, "Welcome to Maine, now go home."

4 posted on 12/29/2005 7:30:14 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: systematic

Isn't it kinda dangerous to leave that much ice so close to Teddy Kennedy's highball glass?


5 posted on 12/29/2005 7:35:43 PM PST by digger48
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To: Ramius
You're absolutely right.

The MSM, and other critics demand instant responses -- then hyperventilate when it appears some errors were made.

FEMA should have said what every project manager would tell his boss: "speed; quality; and economy -- pick two".

With the histrionics of CNN and other MSM immediately following Katrina -- the response had to be speedy. It was -- but even that wasn't good enough. With the likes of Mayor Nagin demanding Greyhounds; quality was a must. It should come as no surprise that some things weren't as economical as they could have been.
6 posted on 12/29/2005 7:40:29 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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To: digger48

FEMA doesn't need to give out ice. During Wilma we had our radio commandeered to give out info on distribution points for all this free stuff nobody needed. One day I drove by a long line of cars and went to ther grocery store and bought ice for $1.29.


7 posted on 12/29/2005 7:43:14 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: systematic

"Katrina" sure has turned into another Socialist, pork barrel fiasco. But hey! It's only money! Crazy Charlie Rangel would say that the money being thrown at the "Katrina" fiasco is just "chump change."


8 posted on 12/29/2005 7:44:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: systematic
And Fox just reported that a doggie spa in Utah got a no interest SBA loan that was to benefit the NOLA area? Your tax dollars at work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IMHO, some one needs to go to jail and not pass Go and not collect $200.......

9 posted on 12/29/2005 7:45:08 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: Ramius

Oh, don't worry. After a Democrat gets elected, FEMA will run smoothly, the NSA won't spy on anyone and the IRS will give you a small piece of candy with every audit.


10 posted on 12/29/2005 7:48:54 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: systematic

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11 posted on 12/29/2005 7:55:14 PM PST by mother22wife21 ( Read to your Children.)
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To: systematic

Since when did ice become relief supplies? Is it needed for cocktails?

It's stupid beyond belief to even consider ice as something that should be sent to disaster areas. It is so highly perishable that a great deal of attention and care must be given to its handling just to keep it frozen.

What idiot thought of sending ice and not water and other survival foods that do not require refrigeration?

This is so silly it would not be accepted by Saturday Night Live.


12 posted on 12/29/2005 7:58:16 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: AmishDude

Heh. Quite.


13 posted on 12/29/2005 8:03:36 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Since when did ice become relief supplies?

Uh... maybe to keep perishable foods cold? What planet are you from?

14 posted on 12/29/2005 8:05:31 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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What is Collins complaining about? After 3 years of disasterous Baldassi economics, she should be damn glad that someone made some money in this state.


15 posted on 12/29/2005 8:06:59 PM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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maybe to keep perishable foods cold?

Is that so you can cook them with the electricity you don't have.

16 posted on 12/29/2005 8:31:52 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Many perishable foods do not need preparation to be consumed....um milk comes to mind as one example.


17 posted on 12/29/2005 8:36:53 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: systematic
"When the ice was brought to Portland, several truckers complained that diverting the ice so far seemed like a waste of money. The drivers said they were getting paid $2.50 a mile while driving, and $800 to $1,000 a day while waiting at a location to be loaded"

Not much wonder that truck drivers are stereotyped as big dumb ophs, where else could you find representatives to complain about making a profit.
18 posted on 12/29/2005 8:40:15 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: org.whodat

Good grief. Whatever.

Ice is a completely reasonable thing to supply, and I've decided it is simply not worth the effort to discuss the matter.

Good night.


19 posted on 12/29/2005 8:46:02 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Well, after disasters the lack of refrigeration can really be a problem for some people, diabetics especially must keep their insulin cold. I'm sure there are medicines used to treat other ailments, along with fresh blood needed for surgeries etc.

What I'm trying to figure out is why in the hell they had to haul it all the way to Maine.


20 posted on 12/29/2005 8:49:51 PM PST by 308MBR (Not only older, but bolder. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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