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To: Darkwolf377
OK so you like Tom Cruise, but you're billing some of his movies as big successes by throwing in the tv and dvd sales. Still they were not blockbusters in the theatres. You're certainly correct that he's made lots of money, but I hold to my opinion that Minority Report, etc. sucked as movies.

Definitely your weakest point is you tried to rehabilitate Eyes Wide Shut in some fashion. The movie was boring (great director had lost his mojo) and it was definitely a financial, artistic and critical flop. Actually I dig the trial scene at the orgy, with all the masks. Good sound and imagery. Otherwise a loser.

57 posted on 12/29/2005 11:55:43 AM PST by Williams
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To: Williams
OK so you like Tom Cruise,

Typical--you don't like the facts, so you start with a snide crack. I couldn't care less about Cruise. I haven't seen most of his movies. I just like it when people talk about facts, as opposed to what they wish were true. But if you wanna be snide, I can be snide, too. I'd just prefer to discuss facts.

If you knew the first thing about movie economics you'd understand why. And in facvt you misrepresented what I posted--I showed the numbers WITHOUT those additional streams of revenue, and they're STILL big hits.

Still they were not blockbusters in the theatres.

Yup--seven movies making over $100 mil and two of them over $200 mil aren't blockbusters. Please, stay out of the accounting business.

You're certainly correct that he's made lots of money, but I hold to my opinion that Minority Report, etc. sucked as movies.

Who cares? That's your opinion, you're welcome to it. Apparently you've seen more of his movies than I have, and yet you say *I* like Cruise. Little projection there? Ashamed of seeing all of your buddy Tommy's movies? (Why would you keep seeing all these movies when they all suck? Are you compelled to see Tommy's movies?)

Definitely your weakest point is you tried to rehabilitate Eyes Wide Shut in some fashion. The movie was boring (great director had lost his mojo) and it was definitely a financial, artistic and critical flop. Actually I dig the trial scene at the orgy, with all the masks. Good sound and imagery. Otherwise a loser.

Your need to distance yourself from your love for Cruise movies is really odd. (Almost as odd as your enjoying an orgy scene in some Cruise movie.) I made one quick comment about EWS--that it wasn't a total box office disaster. This seems to have disturbed you for some reason. Our opinions on these movies do not matter when we're discussing whether Cruise was ruined by EWS--which was your original point, remember? He wasn't--thanks to people like you, who claim to dislike him, yet pay to see all his movies in secret.

You claimed Eyes Wide Shut ruined Cruise. In fact, he's become even more successful than ever before since EWS. You were wrong. Case closed.

59 posted on 12/29/2005 12:04:37 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Warning: Adult language, but great Christmas message: http://foamy.libertech.net/noxmas.swf)
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