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Actually (responding to some of the above posts), I'd say I am an atheist, not an agnostic --- because there never can be "definitive proof" of a prime mover or organizer of all life/matter. As a scientist and rational thinker, you would just want to know where THAT [something someone points to, and calls a God] came from.... hence, I'd term myself an atheist, not an agnostic. Don't like to be wishy washy on these issues. So, I'm taking a "stand."

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Actually (responding to some of the above posts), I'd say I am an atheist, not an agnostic --- because there never can be "definitive proof" of a prime mover or organizer of all life/matter.

If you believe there is no god - you have a belief system which is just as much a belief system as that of the god-believer...since you can not prove your position, it is a belief - if you add in a materialistic assumption, I say you have a religion complete with dogma.

because there never can be "definitive proof" of a prime mover or organizer of all life/matter

I don't know about "never" in regards to prime mover/organizer/God but there never can be "definitive proof" for your atheistic belief. Just remember there is the possibility that someday there will be proof that God/prime mover/organizer exists - but your belief system, atheism, has no chance of proof because it requires proving a negative.

hence, I'd term myself an atheist, not an agnostic.

Therefore you have a belief system. Agnostic is not a belief system. I have no problem with evangelical atheists except when they try to claim their belief system is "fact" and not a belief system.

"As a scientist and rational thinker, you would just want to know where THAT [something someone points to, and calls a God] came from.... hence, I'd term myself an atheist."

As a scientist, you surely know the importance of research. Before you came to your atheistic position, did you thoroughly research the subject of God? Like, read the Bible, study it, follow the instructions therein? Pray?

No need to 'brace' ;^)

As a scientist and rational thinker, you would just want to know where THAT [something someone points to, and calls a God] came from.... hence, I'd term myself an atheist, not an agnostic.

This sentence shows that you put a limit on what is called a god. Yours is limited by having a need for a Creator.

because there never can be "definitive proof" of a prime mover or organizer of all life/matter.

Or of anything else.

But what would I know? I am a solipcist.

So why am I posting? ;-)