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To: freedumb2003
both equivalently faith based is a bit disingenuous.

I freely admit that my beliefs are faith based. What is wrong with that?

My beliefs in electronic theory is also faith based as I have not seen how a transistor works, but I believe I can make a device with transistors work, so there is basis for my beliefs short of anybody knowing for fact how a transistor works.

It is the same in my religeous beliefs. I can see how my family has turned out because of my religeous actions just like seeing how a transistor device functions. It is because of my beliefs.

You reject that it is because of your beliefs in Darwins Theories that you can speculate how species came and went and new ones came. There is only belief that species changed from one to another. It cannot be demonstrated any more than my religious beliefs can be demonstrated by other than what I say and do.

There is no evidence other than what others have said, and what you believe. The fossil record does not show how it takes place.

If you just admit that it is because of your belief that it happens, and that belief is a leap of faith, I will accept that you believe in Darwins theory and have demonstrated that belief.

Short of that, you are being dogmatic just as the Church was when they insisted that the Sun revolves around the Earth.

There is no more imperical evidence for Darwin's theory of Origin of the Species than the belief that the Sun revolved around the Earth.

370 posted on 12/28/2005 10:02:00 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)

You have already been schooled, and by those much better at doing so than me, on why your comparison is false.

If you HAD to determine why a transistor worked, science provides tools to make that determination. You know that there is a scientific, physical underlying priciple for how a transistor works. It is not just "faith." It is knowledge (unless you want to go down the "if Helen Keller falls in a forest, does she make a sound" road).

Faith provides no such investigatory tools. It just ends with {poof}.

Even the discussion about what is "faith" and what is "known" is philisophical, not scientific.

Again, is it impossible for you to stay on topic?


376 posted on 12/28/2005 10:12:39 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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