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To: freedumb2003
Can't you guys do anything but change the subject?

It isn't changing the subject.

Religion is a faith based system that cannot be proven to be completely true except to those who believe. Many things about it can be shown to be true by the results it brings, but it requires a leap of faith to accept completely as true.

Darwinism is s faith based system that cannot be proven to be completely true, but which contains many truths. It also can be shown to be true by some of the results. To accept everything taught under the banner of Darwinism also requires a leap of faith as some aspects have not been proven to be true, and cannot be replicated as is required by scientific methods.

It is OK to believe in the Religious aspects of Darwinism, just don't require everyone to accept those parts as anything other than speculation and theory.

It is OK to require students to understand the current speculation and theory so they can answer questions about it before passing the course.

I accept the theory of electronics and have made a good living from that. I don't get dogmatic about it though.

344 posted on 12/28/2005 9:31:54 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)
Religion is a faith based system that cannot be proven to be completely true except to those who believe. Many things about it can be shown to be true by the results it brings, but it requires a leap of faith to accept completely as true.

Darwinism is s faith based system that cannot be proven to be completely true, but which contains many truths. It also can be shown to be true by some of the results. To accept everything taught under the banner of Darwinism also requires a leap of faith as some aspects have not been proven to be true, and cannot be replicated as is required by scientific methods.

To begin with, I can't tell where you stand.

Darwinism is a theory based on a naturalistic and scientific examination of available data. It is not perfect and there are holes (as I admitted before). Science is still pursuing those holes. No one in their right mind accepts all postulates for any scientific theory carte blance.

Religion is purely an invention of the mind. As you point out, it is reverse-engineered. You create the belief system, then point out how the "real world" supports that system.

But the idea that a scientific theory and a mythology are both equivalently faith based is a bit disingenuous.

350 posted on 12/28/2005 9:37:11 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: Dan(9698); freedumb2003
Darwinism is s faith based system

Nope. Please stop posting nonsense, and try to learn something about the topic before spouting off about it.

that cannot be proven to be completely true,

Nothing in science can. Science does not deal in proofs. If you're going to whine about something, make it something relevant.

but which contains many truths. It also can be shown to be true by some of the results. To accept everything taught under the banner of Darwinism also requires a leap of faith

Wrong again. It doesn't take "faith", it takes knowledge, understanding, and evidence.

as some aspects have not been proven to be true,

See above.

and cannot be replicated as is required by scientific methods.

You have a poor understanding of the scientific method. Science does not "require" that *events* be replicated, it requires that *findings* be replicatable.

It is OK to believe in the Religious aspects of Darwinism,

And what in the hell would *that* be?

just don't require everyone to accept those parts as anything other than speculation and theory.

Evolutionary biology is far beyond "speculation".

It is OK to require students to understand the current speculation and theory so they can answer questions about it before passing the course.

Colleges will be hugely relieved that they have your approval to teach science.

I accept the theory of electronics and have made a good living from that. I don't get dogmatic about it though.

Nor do we. So you might want to drop the snotty misrepresentations.

359 posted on 12/28/2005 9:50:17 PM PST by Ichneumon
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