[freedumb2003]

You clearly haven't been following my threads.

That ALL of the natural world is God's handiwork should be clear to all but the most jaded atheist. But He exists well outside of what we call science and scientific examination.

My point is that ID and, perhaps, creationism should be argued in philosophy and similar arenas. NOT science. Certainly not biology and the other similar studies.

All science has "holes." Gravity has holes. Physics has massive holes (look at String Theory). Evolution no more needs to apologize for the holes than traditional physicists had to apologize for the standard theory of gravity getting a black eye by Einstein.

Eyes didn't just come into existence in one day. The process was very, very slow as the prerequisites for vision and the external stimulus needed for it slowly came about. That is why there is no vision in the deep, deep ocean. There was no evolutionary need for it.

The exceptions which we can see prove the rule.

[ImaGraftedBranch]

All science has "holes." Gravity has holes. Physics has massive holes (look at String Theory). Evolution no more needs to apologize for the holes than traditional physicists had to apologize for the standard theory of gravity getting a black eye by Einstein.

The problem is that evolutionists systematically prevent anything remotely challenging to evolution by denying publication in most journals. THAT is what it needs to apologize for. It shows a tremendous weakness when they forcefully prevent anything contrary to their worldview from being challenged.

And on your point about being so religious yet still managing to be an evolutionist...I only urge you to pray for wisdom on the matter. To attempt to exclude God from this discussion shows that you have very little faith in Him.

[Elsie]

That is why there is no vision in the deep, deep ocean. There was no evolutionary need for it.

Huh? Have you no knowledge of the lights that have EVOVLED on the deepsea creatures??? Their eyes work just FINE!!

(But them stupid cave fish DEVOVLED their eyeballs. Go figger!)