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To: Strategerist; ICE-FLYER
I hate it when this happens.... (that ominous extended period of silence)

Shoe is on the other hand now.

No matter how loud their proponents yell, creationism and ID are mythology, religion, and philosophy. Evolution is science.

The only reason I get involved is because I worry about our kids getting screwed up thinking that when you hit something you can't explain, you basically throw your hands up and say "magic did this." That is very real damage.

No wonder we are losing so badly in worldwide academia.

140 posted on 12/28/2005 5:15:16 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: freedumb2003
Evolution is science.

Evolution is Religeon. See post 119 for what Darwin said.

142 posted on 12/28/2005 5:19:13 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: freedumb2003
The only reason I get involved is because I worry about our kids getting screwed up thinking that when you hit something you can't explain, you basically throw your hands up and say "magic did this." That is very real damage.

That's a good reason. Thank you.

170 posted on 12/28/2005 5:47:51 PM PST by phantomworker (I trust my intuition and speak my truth... Don't accuse me of your imagination!)
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To: freedumb2003; Strategerist
Shoe is on the other hand now. Is it? I thougt it would be on the other foot.

No matter how loud their proponents yell, creationism and ID are mythology, religion, and philosophy. Evolution is science.

Oh bogus, it is only in your mind as it is an affront to what you hold to be true. While Science supports the theory of Evolution it is not a theory vetted out to perfection. there are a lot of unansewered questions that we have not even the capacity to compute or understand yet so quit making as if its a foregone conclusion. There may be a lot of eggs in your basket but few have hatched...or are you prepared to say with total certainty that the theory needs nothing more to explain?

The only reason I get involved is because I worry about our kids getting screwed up thinking that when you hit something you can't explain, you basically throw your hands up and say "magic did this." That is very real damage.

Oh yes, and all of us useful idiots could care less about our kids...about science and about the "real world"...right? My degree in Professional Aeronautics means I am just an idiot who now flies for the USAF by total luck and chance...right? How do I dare say to you, the higher form of intelligence, that I actually understand the arguments and come to a different conclusion? I share your worry about education of our kids, but I am not ready to berate you over it. My five children are getting more factual science than I ever did and we are hyper-involved with their education. What I fear in education more is an inept government minded union who has control over schools from ther top down and see it as a place where social engineering takes place and where all the liberal ideologies of the world are to be indoctrinated into unsuspecting minds who get more screwed up than well served.

No wonder we are losing so badly in worldwide academia.

And yet where does the world come for the best education?

184 posted on 12/28/2005 6:09:37 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: freedumb2003; Strategerist
Sorry I had to correct for Italics! -------------------------------- Shoe is on the other hand now.

Is it? I thougt it would be on the other foot.

No matter how loud their proponents yell, creationism and ID are mythology, religion, and philosophy. Evolution is science.

Oh bogus, it is only in your mind as it is an affront to what you hold to be true. While Science supports the theory of Evolution it is not a theory vetted out to perfection. there are a lot of unansewered questions that we have not even the capacity to compute or understand yet so quit making as if its a foregone conclusion. There may be a lot of eggs in your basket but few have hatched...or are you prepared to say with total certainty that the theory needs nothing more to explain?

The only reason I get involved is because I worry about our kids getting screwed up thinking that when you hit something you can't explain, you basically throw your hands up and say "magic did this." That is very real damage.

Oh yes, and all of us useful idiots could care less about our kids...about science and about the "real world"...right? My degree in Professional Aeronautics means I am just an idiot who now flys for the USAF by total luck and chance...right? How do I dare say to you, the higher form of intelligence, that I actually understand the arguments and come to a different conclusion? I share your worry about education of our kids, but I am not ready to berate you over it. My five children are getting more factual science than I ever did and we are hyper-involved with their education. What I fear in education more is an inept government minded union who has control over schools from ther top down and see it as a place where social engineering takes place and where all the liberal ideologies of the world are to be indoctrinated into unsuspecting minds who get more screwed up than well served.

No wonder we are losing so badly in worldwide academia.

And yet where does the world come for the best education?

185 posted on 12/28/2005 6:10:54 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: freedumb2003
No matter how loud their proponents yell, creationism and ID are mythology, religion, and philosophy. Evolution is science.

The only reason I get involved is because I worry about our kids getting screwed up thinking that when you hit something you can't explain, you basically throw your hands up and say "magic did this." That is very real damage.

No wonder we are losing so badly in worldwide academia.

AhHA... NOW I see the link that's been missing!

496 posted on 12/29/2005 6:19:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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