Evolution's Thermodynamic Failure

The American Spectator ^ | December 28, 2005 | Granville Sewell

[bobdsmith]

I know about evolutionary programming, i did the same experiment (calculating the value of Pi) when in grad school....here's the problem....You are guiding the result - YOU are determing (by enforcing a rule) what is "good" and selectively pruning the results.

Well nature is "guiding the result". Nature is determining (by enforcing a rule) what is "good" and selectively pruning the results. So what exactly is it that enables genetic algorithms to work, but not evolution of species?

Or one that defeats aging? Remember stem cells are aging immune.

Aging is an advantage. It allows parents to be more easily replaced by their offspring, which increases the effectiveness of the algorithm.

[Elsie]

 

btw: I am a Christian and devoutly believe in God and His Son, who died for our sins.

And anyone that watches evolution unfold and doesn't see the Glory of God is looking but not seeing.

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Ok...

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Most Christians 'believe' Evolution because they do NOT know what their Bible says.  If, as they say, they 'believe' the words of Jesus and then of the New Testament writers, they have to decide what the following verses mean:

 

Romans 5:12-21
 12.  Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
 13.  for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
 14.  Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
 15.  But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
 16.  Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
 17.  For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
 18.  Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
 19.  For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
 20.  The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
 21.  so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

 

 

If there were  no one man, that means SIN did NOT enter the World thru him.

 

If Adam was NOT the one man, that means SPIRITUAL DEATH did not come thru him.

 

If SIN did NOT enter the World thru the one man, that means Jesus does not save from SIN.

 

 

Are we to believe that the one man is symbolic?  Does that mean Jesus is symbolic as well?

 

 

The Theory of Evolution states that there WAS no one man, but a wide population that managed to inherit that last mutated gene that makes MEN different from APES.

 

 

 

 

1 Timothy 2:13

  For Adam was formed first, then Eve.   Was Paul WRONG about this???

 

 

 

[Elsie]

;^)

[Elsie]

LOVE that tagline!!!

[freedumb2003]

You would detest any Divine Fiat.

Hey, I had one of these. If you had one, you would detest Fiats, too:

[GOPPachyderm]

Someone you know has a sense of humor!

But if you leave your blanket of many colors in the sun, does it become more organized or less? In my part of the universe, it becomes discolored and faded and eventually will disintegrate. Of course, here in Minnesota, we not only get the energy from the sun, we get the energy from snow too.

[freedumb2003]

The Bible is highly allegorical and has no place in a scientific discussion.

[Elsie]

3) religious "zealots" [ed.: aka "Christians"] scare me more than anything else in this world.

Tell him he should worry about the NEXT world!!!

[Elsie]

It goes from bladder to wort!

Super groan!!!!

[Elsie]

It has historic elements but as a source of scientific knowledge it is extremely limited.

This assertion applies to any 'science' book you pick up as well.

[Elsie]

Just because a fossil disappears or a species becomes exinct doesn't disprove evolution...

Likewise...

Just because a fossil appears or a species becomes evident doesn't prove evolution, either!

[bobdsmith]

Yes they are both false claims, but only the first claim is ever made - that trilobites appeared and therefore evolution is wrong. How does that even work?

[Elsie]

By your 'logic', the Roman Empire never existed.

Good job of mis-direction, but the ToE IS repeatable, if it's any kind of theory at all!

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A one-time-event, of course, is NOT repeatable; but if E is as it is claimed: Science - then it CAN be verified.

We C's merely ask that it be done.

[Elsie]

Hey, I'd prefer an atheist like my carpool buddy to a militant Islamist who believes that his god would gladly have him exterminate the infidel.

That's because YOU are the infidel!

Picture yourself as a fellow Muslim and THEN re-think your position in this matter.

[bobdsmith]

If the body creates complex chemicals "by chance" in the hope that they might someday turn out to be useful, then we ought to expect to see hundreds of thousands of chemicals just hanging around in the body, waiting to be used when a species evolves an X-Ray eye or laser tail stinger.

We do see this. The chemicals might currently be involved in some other task but they are nonetheless "hanging around" and can be used as building blocks in new functioning systems (or even rearranged in existing systems for new functions)

[Elsie]

Stupid is generally when you see the evidence and still say, "I believe..."

Ok........

[Elsie]

I try so hard to get the creationists to love me ...

But Pat; we DO!!!

[norton]

"organized Spiral Bands, symmetrical, with a perfectly round and clear eye. That was accomplished through solar energy..."

Not unless my toilet is also solar powered.
The 'round and clear etc,' part was accomplished by the earth spinning on an axis; the moisture was due to solar energy.

[Elsie]

nom...

[101st-Eagle]

BTW, I'm sticking to my infinity time quotient until someone can prove to me that time definitely ends - in which case I'll perhaps be willing to shave off a few billion years ;)

Just wondering, how does science explain time never ending?