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Another View: There's only one way to stop gun crime: ban handguns
New Hampshire Union Leader ^ | December 28, 2005 | JENNY PRICE

Posted on 12/28/2005 12:06:11 PM PST by Final Authority

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To: Final Authority

My question, as a soldier, bound by an oath to uphold the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, would I be required and obligated to remove the Government of San Francisco when the no ownership or possession of any firearm in city limits takes effect? This is a clear violation of the Second Amendment and the rights of the 2 or 3 Americans like myself that actually live in San Francisco.

And I can not believe New Hampshire, with it's state motto would propogate such a story.


201 posted on 12/28/2005 5:51:53 PM PST by Liberate California ("Live Free or Die"" New Hampshire State Motto and "Silly Liberal, Paychecks are for Workers")
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To: mad_as_he$$
This is the only David Price listed as dying in Los Angeles County between 2000 and 2003. He is very young, which consistent with the story. The Los Angeles Times had no articles referring to a David Price in the days around his death, nor to any dramatic double murder.

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202 posted on 12/28/2005 5:55:16 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

Nice Find! OOPS it's FOUR years ago!


203 posted on 12/28/2005 6:36:22 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Churchjack

In all hte replies and comments about this alleged "murder," has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, it wasn't murder, but self defense?

The article makes no mention of actual motive or what led up to the killings.

I find it very strange that no one has been able to come up with any article about this "murder."


204 posted on 12/28/2005 8:38:09 PM PST by DakotaRed
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To: DakotaRed; Final Authority; mad_as_he$$; armymarinedad; wideawake
Well, I've been looking. I haven't been able to find an obituary on the death of the 33 year old David Price above. David Price was born in 1968, Jennifer Price, according to this article in the Princeton Alumni magazine, was 38 in 1999, and thus likely born in 1961. The seven years difference is somewhat distant for siblings but certainly plausible.
205 posted on 12/28/2005 10:06:37 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

I did stumble across this one in the Social Security Death Records Index, but have been unable to find an actual obituary;

DAVID PRICE (born) 21 Dec 1968 (deceased) 31 Dec 2001 90230 (Culver City, Los Angeles, CA)(none specified)552-53-4249 California


206 posted on 12/28/2005 10:28:51 PM PST by DakotaRed
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To: Plutarch; DakotaRed
Good research, Plutarch.

What we need is to get an article that discusses the incident in more detail - probably unlikely since you've obviously done so much work and haven't found extensive documentation.

I mean the woman we're talking about supposedly killed her own daughter over an eviction - on the face of it, that's the act of a complete psycho.

There's more to the story, most likely.

207 posted on 12/29/2005 5:56:23 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Squantos
And per usual you are correct Sir!
208 posted on 12/29/2005 6:20:39 AM PST by ChefKeith (Flies,fleas,ants,ticks,cockroaches,lawyers & politicians All the same. Useless!!!)
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To: Liberate California
NH didn't propagate such a story, rather, a newspaper that is working hard to maintain and even increase readership and subscribers did. It was on the Op-ED page as it should based on the usual editorial opinion of McQuade, the senior editor.
209 posted on 12/29/2005 7:31:17 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: wideawake
If I get a chance today I will inquire with the LA County Coroner , as to the cause of death of the David Price above. A death of a 33 year old should have been investigated by the coroner.

The web site LA County Murders allows search of victims, but only has 2005.

210 posted on 12/29/2005 8:18:44 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: OldEagle

The common definition of a Conservative, is a Liberal that has been mugged.


211 posted on 12/29/2005 8:55:07 AM PST by wbill
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To: Final Authority

She Lied. I have searched the LA Times for quite a while and there is no crime fitting the descritption anywhere in the last five yeas.


212 posted on 12/29/2005 9:30:37 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
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To: Ouderkirk
The Princeton Article states that “Price, 38, credits her late-baby-boomer childhood in St. Louis, including annual trips to Aspen, Colorado…Last year, [1999] Price moved to Los Angeles…"

The Social Security number for the David Price above, starts with 552, which is a California issued number. Jenny Price’s brother should have a Missouri number if they grew up in St. Louis. The David Price above is thus less likely to be her brother.

There are no other David Price deaths listed in Los Angeles in the Social Security database that match Jenny Price's account.

213 posted on 12/29/2005 9:48:20 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

Did you assume that Price is Jenny's maiden name?

Her brother's name could be anything at all, but it is strange that the mother killing her own daughter would not have lots of coverage regardless of what his name is.


214 posted on 12/29/2005 12:06:35 PM PST by Badray (In the hands of bureaucrat, a clip board can be as dangerous to liberty as a gun.)
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To: Badray
Did you assume that Price is Jenny's maiden name?

Yup.

(1) The Princeton article uses Price as her name. If an alumnae has married and her name is changed, it will usually identify the maiden name as well.

(2) None of the bios on Jenny Price indicate she is married.

(3) There is no indication she used a different name earlier in her career, for example, in getting the Ph.D. from Yale.

(4) The UCLA Center for the Study of Women (CSW) , lists Jennifer Price as a Research Scholar. Such a group of rabid feminists would probably toss her out if they found out she was using her husband’s name.

(5) A blogger I linked in a post above named a David Price as her brother.

So, for all these reasons it appears likely (80%?) that her brother had the same last name.

215 posted on 12/29/2005 12:36:02 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

Thanks for all your work trying to track this story down. I had some free time today and found this obscure article which seems to raise alot of other questions:

http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:coifLvFPJOoJ:www.riverfronttimes.info/issues/2004-07-21/news/feature_print.html+%22David+Price%22+%22Jane+Higgins%22&hl=en

Go at it...


216 posted on 12/29/2005 2:36:35 PM PST by rohry
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To: Plutarch

Also this from Jenny herself as a reply to the aformentioned article:

"Flack Flak
A message from the other side: I am Jenny Price, the sister of Jane Higgins' ex-husband David Price. I read Chad Garrison's profile of Jane while visiting my family in St. Louis ["Star Flack," July 21].

Jane is a talented publicist and devoted mother. She deserves a profile that raves about her. But I am not impugning Jane in the least to point out that every divorce has two sides -- and the fact that anyone, much less any reporter, should understand this.

The fact that Garrison makes numerous claims about my brother's life and work and marriage and death that he couldn't possibly know to be true, with nary a quotation mark or "according to," is such obviously shoddy journalism.

The fact that he makes these claims about a man who has been dead for three years and cannot defend his memory is doubly irresponsible. The fact that Garrison has practiced such careless reporting on a subject of such pain and tragedy is unconscionable.

It would take several pages to rebut the assertions about my brother point by point. David, in any case, was much more forgiving than I am and probably would not want me to. Suffice it to say that David was a man of exceptional warmth and talent and integrity. He is one of the last people I can think of who deserves to have had his name sullied in his hometown media."

Jenny Price
Venice, California


Quite defensive, I say! What is the whole story?


217 posted on 12/29/2005 2:42:46 PM PST by rohry
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To: rohry

Sorry, in my last post I meant to put the key grafs from the story. Here's one:

"It began the moment Higgins and her family moved from New York to St. Louis in August 1997. The move was supposed to benefit her son, Ian, who had recently been diagnosed with ADHD (attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder). Higgins and her husband, David Price, thought St. Louis would provide a safer, more secure environment. For David, a graduate of Clayton High School, the move was also a welcome homecoming. It wouldn't last long.

Six weeks after the family arrived in St. Louis, David packed his bags for California. In the Big Apple, he'd written material for "Good Morning America," and he found it difficult to get even remotely similar work in the Lou. Frustrated, he moved by himself to Los Angeles to find work in television.

In hindsight Jane Higgins should have seen the divorce coming. For the previous eighteen months, David had been suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome brought on when a small commuter plane he was aboard crash-landed on a small airstrip in Pennsylvania. Everyone survived, but David could never shake the vision of the plane going down. It wasn't long before Higgins noticed emotional changes in her husband. The man who had once been so jovial and carefree took on a distant, sour air. The only thing they had in common now was Ian.

Higgins doesn't blame David for the end of their marriage, but she was angry they had ever come to St. Louis ("How in the hell did I let him talk me into moving to St. Louis?" she asks). With her husband gone, Higgins didn't know a soul in St. Louis except for David's parents."

Here's another:

"Higgins has yet to begin dating since her divorce in 1997. David, on the other hand, wasted little time.

Soon after the divorce was finalized, he began seeing a woman in Los Angeles named Annette Metoyer. From the beginning Higgins sensed something was awry in David's relationship with the woman. Those thoughts crystallized when Metoyer began sending Higgins threatening e-mails. Even today Higgins says she doesn't know what sparked the e-mails. She was in no way jealous of Annette. In fact, she was happy David had found someone. Even so, the e-mails continued, with the warning to Higgins to "watch herself." Higgins soon grew frightened of the woman and sent the menacing missives to her mother.

"I said if anything ever happens to me, here's where to begin searching."

Little did Higgins -- or anyone -- know that it was Metoyer who should have feared for her life.

David's parents never suspected their son or his girlfriend were in harm's way. They weren't pleased that their son and Higgins had divorced but were glad he had again found love.

"David was happy in LA," recalls his mother, Madelon. "He mentioned once or twice that [Annette's] mother was difficult, but I didn't think much of it."

Apparently Annette's mother, who lived with the couple, was upset they were trying to move her out of the apartment they all shared, though that's speculation because she never lived to offer up a motive. After shooting her daughter in the chest and lodging seven bullets in David, Annette's mother turned the gun on herself.

Higgins was leaving a Make-A-Wish gala at the Chase Park Plaza when she got a call from the Los Angeles medical examiner.

At first she thought it was a joke. When the grim reality sank in, her first question was about Annette.

"She's been killed, too," came the reply. Amid the trauma Higgins felt a twinge of elation.

"I remember thinking, 'Good! That bitch!'"

In the Los Angeles Times, the story merited a news brief in the metro section, under the headline: "3 DIE IN SAN PEDRO MURDER-SUICIDE."

Authorities on Sunday identified a woman who police said fatally shot her daughter and a man believed to be the younger woman's boyfriend before turning the gun on herself Saturday in San Pedro.

Los Angeles Police Department spokesman Guillermo Campos said Carmen Foy, 70, shot and killed her daughter, Annette Metoyer, 43, and the unidentified 42-year-old man in the 1000 block of West 23rd Street.

Neighbors said they heard two series of shots come from the apartment.

Members of the LAPD special weapons and tactics unit forced open a door at the apartment after reports of gun shots.

Autopsies were to be performed this morning, officials said."


What happened to curious reporters?


218 posted on 12/29/2005 2:51:56 PM PST by rohry
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To: Plutarch
Well, I've been looking. I haven't been able to find an obituary on the death of the 33 year old David Price above. David Price was born in 1968, Jennifer Price, according to this article in the Princeton Alumni magazine, was 38 in 1999, and thus likely born in 1961. The seven years difference is somewhat distant for siblings but certainly plausible.

With the difference in their ages, possibly David and Jennifer were the products of two different marriages. With two different fathers.

That was more common in California in the '60s than in most other places.

219 posted on 12/29/2005 3:23:23 PM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Ghengis

Disregard that theory. I just read post #218.


220 posted on 12/29/2005 3:32:57 PM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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