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To: gedeon3
"Evolution is a lie. Science does not equal evolution. Science is compatible with creation."

AMEN! True, observable, testable science is compatable with Scripture truth -- it can never deny Bible Truth, because it is governed by the Creator, Who is also the Author of the Scriptures. It matters not that the Bible is not given to us primarily as a science textbook -- wherever the Bible speaks to a scientific fact, it is wholly true and accurate, including Genesis chs. 1 and 2, and chs. 6 through 8.
11 posted on 12/26/2005 8:52:14 AM PST by Free Baptist
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To: Free Baptist
Don't even bother with these guys. This isn't a thread about honest debate. This a ping-list with an agenda and a desire to pat each other on the back... if only to assuage their consciences.
16 posted on 12/26/2005 9:00:49 AM PST by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: Free Baptist
It matters not that the Bible is not given to us primarily as a science textbook -- wherever the Bible speaks to a scientific fact, it is wholly true and accurate, including Genesis chs. 1 and 2, and chs. 6 through 8.

So there are four-legged creatures that fly that are good eatin'?

Leviticus 11:21

32 posted on 12/26/2005 9:23:56 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Free Baptist
"AMEN! True, observable, testable science is compatable with Scripture truth -- it can never deny Bible Truth,..."

So, as it says in Leviticus, bats are birds and, as it says in Joshua, the sun moves around the earth.

36 posted on 12/26/2005 9:30:25 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Free Baptist; Dog Gone; muir_redwoods; AmericaUnited
AMEN! True, observable, testable science is compatable with Scripture truth -- it can never deny Bible Truth, because it is governed by the Creator, Who is also the Author of the Scriptures. It matters not that the Bible is not given to us primarily as a science textbook -- wherever the Bible speaks to a scientific fact, it is wholly true and accurate, including Genesis chs. 1 and 2, and chs. 6 through 8.

Oh? How about:

Job 38:22-23 - Have you entered the [place] where the snow is stored? Or have you seen the storehouses of hail, which I hold in reserve for times of trouble, for the day of warfare and battle?
Is hail kept in "storehouses", to be shipped to where it will fall? Is snow "stored" until delivery?

That seemed a reasonable assumption for men to make a few thousand years ago, since snow and hail seem to be dumped from unknown sources, but now we know that snow and hail are formed from the moisture of clouds moments before they fall, they aren't "stored" somewhere until they're "delivered".

Is it "wholly true and accurate" that snow/hail are kept in storehouses until they fall?

Psalm 135:7 - He causes the clouds to rise from the ends of the earth. He makes lightning for the rain and brings the wind from His storehouses.
Do clouds "rise from the ends of the Earth"? Does the Earth even *have* "ends"? Does wind come from "storehouses" like the hail and snow?
Job 38:24 - What road leads to [the place] where light is dispersed? [Where is the source of] the east wind that spreads across the earth?
Do east winds originate from a "where", from whence it "spreads across the Earth?

Is the coat pattern of a flock's offspring affected by what the gravid animals see? (Genesis 30:37-43). That's some funny genetics, eh? Etc., etc.

The meteorology, biology, and cosmology of the Bible are in line with ancient man's misconceptions and presumptions about how things worked, and are hardly "wholly true and accurate" in the way they would be if they had been authored by an omniscient being.

42 posted on 12/26/2005 10:00:58 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Free Baptist
wherever the Bible speaks to a scientific fact, it is wholly true and accurate, including Genesis chs. 1 and 2, and chs. 6 through 8.

I don't agree. Genesis does not match the observed evidence.

58 posted on 12/26/2005 10:39:30 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Free Baptist
AMEN! True, observable, testable science is compatable with Scripture truth -- it can never deny Bible Truth, because it is governed by the Creator, Who is also the Author of the Scriptures. It matters not that the Bible is not given to us primarily as a science textbook -- wherever the Bible speaks to a scientific fact, it is wholly true and accurate, including Genesis chs. 1 and 2, and chs. 6 through 8.

Ah, the American Taliban chimes in once again.

102 posted on 12/26/2005 11:54:36 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Free Baptist
...wherever the Bible speaks to a scientific fact, it is wholly true and accurate...

I don't know how I missed this earlier.

According to the bible; bats are birds (they are not, they are placental mammals that give live birth and suckle their young), grasshoppers, locusts, and beetles only have four legs (they have six, which is why they are classified as being insects), hares chew their cud (they do no such thing; they chew their poop) - the list goes on and on.

When it comes to science, the bible is a mess. This is one (very big) reason that so many folks shudder at the thought of it being used as a science book.

104 posted on 12/26/2005 12:03:00 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Free Baptist

Why not include chapter 9, which states that Noah lived to the ripe old age of 950?


106 posted on 12/26/2005 12:05:34 PM PST by toadthesecond
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To: Free Baptist
wherever the Bible speaks to a scientific fact, it is wholly true and accurate

The global flood? Gimmi a break!

Try this: Problems with a Global Flood, Second Edition, by Mark Isaak.

If you want more, let me know. I have more from my own studies.

294 posted on 12/26/2005 9:49:07 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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