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Churchman: Right jolly old elf promotes ‘idol worship’
Lebanon Daily News (Pa) ^ | 12/23/05 | Rory Schuler

Posted on 12/26/2005 8:14:44 AM PST by Conservatrix

BETHEL — While controversy swirls over a substitute teacher who told first-graders that Santa Claus doesn’t exist, a local dairy farmer and church deacon has put the same message in a very public place. By erecting a sign along the eastbound side of I-78, between the Bethel and Grimes exits, Leonard H. Martin has taken it upon himself to shatter the myth of Santa Claus for any youngster able to read the message from the back seat of a car as their parents drive by.

It marks the second consecutive year that Martin has posted what he termed a spiritual message on his land adjacent to I-78.

Last year, the sign stated, “Santa is a myth, lying to our children brings moral decay.”

For this season, Martin toned it down slightly. The sign now reads, “Worship God, who is all knowing & all seeing, Santa is a Myth.”

Martin, who operates a dairy farm at 250 Legion Drive, Bethel Township, is also a deacon with Harmony Christian Fellowship.

“We wanted to bring out the point that (Americans) are making Santa out to be what God actually is,” Martin said Tuesday. “We’re making Santa a god. I believe that is idol worship.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: badsanta; christianity; churchofgodhatesyou; grumpyoldman; idolatry; meanpeople; santaclaus; thumpthumpthump
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The sign is on Route 78 on the east side between Bethel and Frystown.
1 posted on 12/26/2005 8:14:46 AM PST by Conservatrix
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To: Conservatrix

The Grinch lives...


2 posted on 12/26/2005 8:20:05 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: Conservatrix

I wouldn't be too hard on him. Apparently, he was born a 70-year-old curmudgeon, and has been losing ground ever since.


3 posted on 12/26/2005 8:22:41 AM PST by Egon (I don't want edible meat, I want edible animals. - CygnusXI)
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To: Conservatrix

Not the best of all possible ways to make converts.


4 posted on 12/26/2005 8:24:18 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Conservatrix
“There is a lot of advertising out there that is shattering my young innocent children’s lives,” he said. “This is a fair opportunity to present the truth.”

A very ironic statement, considering he's doing exactly the same thing.

I wonder what he told his kids when they first asked where babies come from.

5 posted on 12/26/2005 8:25:02 AM PST by Egon (I don't want edible meat, I want edible animals. - CygnusXI)
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To: Conservatrix

Let me get this straight: Santa is a myth because the only proof of his existence is in the minds of believers based upon lore that has been passed down from generation to generation. Yet God is real even though his existence is in the minds of believers based upon faith based Bible stories that have been passed down from generation to generation.


6 posted on 12/26/2005 8:26:34 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Egon

The man is 35 years old and the humblest, devout Christian you would ever know.


7 posted on 12/26/2005 8:35:46 AM PST by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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The man is 35 years old and the humblest, devout Christian you would ever know.

The man is 35 going on 70. No question on his level of devout-ness. I would, however, dispute his being "humble". He seems to be arrogant enough to feel he has the right to trump a parent's right and responsibility to provide their own children with truth and morality.

8 posted on 12/26/2005 8:38:50 AM PST by Egon (I don't want edible meat, I want edible animals. - CygnusXI)
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To: Labyrinthos

GOD IS REAL; Santa is a myth. Having said that, I do not agree with the man putting up such bill board; he is going about it the wrong way.


9 posted on 12/26/2005 8:38:56 AM PST by gedeon3
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To: Labyrinthos
Yet God is real even though his existence is in the minds of believers based upon faith based Bible stories that have been passed down from generation to generation.

The "bible stories" are based on eyewitness accounts passed down through the generations. The stories of my Grandfathers experience in WWII has been passed down now 4 generations, yet I don't doubt his "stories" even though most of his men were killed or are dead and he has no pictures to back up what he experienced. That is faith as well in what he is saying is true. But tell you what, when you see a sleigh with eight tiny reindeer flying through the air at the speed of light, please tell me because my Visa bill for playing Santa this year is going to kill me!

10 posted on 12/26/2005 8:40:56 AM PST by Bommer (Christmas is in your heart, not WalMart!)
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To: Bommer

You see Santa Clause, I see St. Nicholas.


11 posted on 12/26/2005 9:17:49 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Bommer

http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=38


12 posted on 12/26/2005 9:19:44 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

You didn't specify St. nicholas. You specified Santa. Fat dude, flying reindeer. Free gifts. Enslaved midgets in a sweatshop toy factory in the barren wastelands of the North Pole!


13 posted on 12/26/2005 9:22:18 AM PST by Bommer (Christmas is in your heart, not WalMart!)
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To: Conservatrix

Whew! For a minute, there, I was afraid the fellow was going to say that single parenthood, serial marriages and welfare were the cause of "moral decay". :)


14 posted on 12/26/2005 9:27:08 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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LOL.


15 posted on 12/26/2005 9:28:06 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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The man is 35 years old and the humblest, devout Christian you would ever know."

According to those who judge by outward appearances of "piety", maybe.

Evidence of humility is teachability (like a little child). He may be humble - time will tell. Right now he shows evidence of being still quite spiritually immature.

The spiritually immature give themselves away by being guite legalistic (because the young still need guard rails), and at the same time, arrogantly assume that they're grown up enough to teach others what they should "do" to be "right with God".

16 posted on 12/26/2005 9:47:51 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: gedeon3

"he is going about it the wrong way"



Using his free speech rights is going about it the wrong way?


17 posted on 12/26/2005 9:49:45 AM PST by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: Matchett-PI

I am afraid you just don't like the fact that his religion disagrees with yours.

Would you want him to go against his conscience any more than you would yours?


18 posted on 12/26/2005 9:50:40 AM PST by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: freeangel

"was afraid the fellow was going to say that single parenthood, serial marriages and welfare were the cause of "moral decay"."

He would believe those are problems also that lead to moral deacy.


19 posted on 12/26/2005 9:51:25 AM PST by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Why? Because he believes that you should worship God an not teach children lies?


20 posted on 12/26/2005 9:52:27 AM PST by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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