Lighten up Francis!
Posted on 12/25/2005 10:37:22 AM PST by Alouette
Lose that tagline. Thanks.
A Christian family in predominantly-Jewish Israel would be expected to adjust to the fact that they are a religious minority, and the majority would not be expected to have to bend over backward to not display Jewish symbols
I kind of liked the Dreidel song. Teaching the Hebrew letters despite being banned.
I also give out the gold foil covered chocolate coins at work. No complaints! If they chose to consider it "tribute" they may.
What a joy it is to have Jewish coworkers!
Oh wait, she's secular, so she probably finds all those religious things offensive, even her own.
Let me second your sentiments.
Judy, something tells me, you might be happier in France or Canada.
That is a wonderful suggestion and would be beautiful.
I mean, here we have an Israeli family being offered a position in central PA, and they don't even bother to research and think about the fact that they would be going where there would be few fellow Jews? They were surprised that going into a predominantly Christian community would result in their being (horrors!) exposed to practicing Christians? Something smells here
"Sanhedrin 57a : A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work." This statement seems a lot like statements that I have heard are in the Koran!
from her son wanting "just one light,' to telling the students Santa is dead, to wanting to write a hate letter to Santa, is a very sad journey she created for the poor kid. So much lost opportunity, it's breathtaking.
This author's kids are probably spiritual lightweights because there mother is clearly a liberal whiner. These are the kids abandoning their Jewish heritage as soon as they come of age.
On the other hand, Alouette, an American Jew, has kids living in Israel, sabras being born there, and an IDF veteran for a son—and all ground zero in the making of contemporary Jewish history.
Gosh, Alouette, how ever did your kids manage to survive Christian cultural hegemony in America?
Right, a hardass Mom who taught them to prevail in whatever situation they find themselves as observant Jewish children, skills which they all carry with them to this day.
"Palestine is the wrong name for their State. It should be called Anarchy."—FReeper sgtbono2002
"Then let's wait and see what the Arabs do after they take Gaza. There's nothing like Arab reality to break up a Jewish fantasy."—FReeper Noachian
A student told his professor he was going to "Palestine" to "fight for freedom, peace and justice,"—Orwellian leftist code words that mean "murder Jews."
The Nature Of Bruce ~
I grew up in a non-religious family, and I even had a German nanny. She taught me Christmas songs in German.
I still remember all the words for Stille Nacht, Heilige Nacht and O Tannenbaum.
I'm celebrating Christmas this year by watching all the "South Park" Christmas specials.
Alternately, people can read Sanhedrin 57 for themselves from the Israeli rabbinical site dafyomi.shemayisrael.co.il
In the commentary section from the same site (my comments and translation of terms in []):
Sanhedrin 57, commentaryWe also get Sanhedrin, 79If a Nochri [ Christian ] takes from a Nochri or from a Yisrael [Israelite], it is forbidden; a Yisrael is permitted to take from a Nochri. If a Nochri kills a Nochri or a Yisrael, he is liable;
i. If a Yisrael kills a Nochri, he is exempt.If a Nochri withheld wages from a Nochri or from a Yisrael, it is forbidden; a Yisrael is permitted to withhold wages from a Nochri.
[killing a Nochrim(Christian) is not punishable by death, but killing a Jew is]I did not get this from Stormfront, but from my own Talmudic studies over the years. Since my wife is Jewish, at one point I got my own copy of the Misnah and read it, then expanded into the Torah on the internet. Some copies of the Talmud are a bit hard to penetrate because of untranslated terms, but in the age of Google, it's fairly straightforward to build a glossaryThe Gemara says that the Rabanan are not referring to a case in which there were nine Nochrim and one Jew in the crowd; in such a case we certainly would not execute the murderer for this act of killing, because there were mostly Nochrim in the crowd. The principle of Rov dictates that since there was a majority of Nochrim in the crowd, it is considered as though he intended to kill a Nochri when he threw the rock into the crowd, for which he is not Chayav Misah[subject to the death penalty]. The case also cannot be one in which there were five Jews and five Nochrim, because the principle of "Safek Nefashos l'Hakel" tells us to be lenient in such a case as well and assume, out of doubt, that he intended to kill a Nochri and not a Jew.
And I do realize that the study of Talmud is forbidden to non-Jews by Sanhedrin 59:
1) MAY NOCHRIM LEARN TORAH?Bottom line: yes, there are passages in the Talmud that are somewhat unflattering. Flipping out over people noticing the existence of such passages is not helpful(a) (R. Yochanan): A Nochri [Christian] that learns Torah is Chayav Misah[subject to the death penalty] - "Torah...Morashah" - it is a Morashah (inheritance) for Yisrael, not for Nochrim.
(b) Question: Why is this not included among his seven Mitzvos?
(c) Answer: It is included in theft;
Amen! Exactly!
She could have done such an AWESOME thing in her children AND her community if she had not played the VICTIM card, and instead played the REAL "DIVERSITY" card...
IDIOT!
Here we go again...14% attempting to tell 86% of the nation what to do and when!
Jews are 2% of the American population.
It depends on which translation you go by. In the Israeli site dafyomi.shemayisrael.co.il we have:
1. If a Nochri withheld wages from a Nochri or from a Yisrael, it is forbidden; a Yisrael is permitted to withhold wages from a Nochri.Now, what is a "Nochri"? Doing a Google search for Nochri we get a big list, one of which is the Wikipedia entry :
The word Gentile (from the Latin gentilis, a translation of the Hebrew Nochri/ðëøé) has several meanings. In the most common modern use it refers to a non-Jew. The word is derived from the Latin term gens (meaning "clan" or a "group of families") and it is often employed in the plural. In late Latin gentilis meant "pagan", and the term gentile has sometimes been used in the past as a synonym for "heathen" or "pagan" (a believer in many gods); this usage is archaic.Since Wiki's reliability is sometimes questioned, anybody disputing their the above translation is welcome to do his own search. The other places that come up fairly consistently give it a translation of "non-Jew". See also discussions in Mail.JewishIn English translations of the Bible the word gentiles is sometimes used as a translation of the Hebrew word goyim; in the King James Version the first and only such use in the Pentateuch is in the book of Genesis 10:5. Christian translators of the Bible use this word in the meaning of non-Israelite, to collectively designate the peoples and nations distinct from the Israelite people; the word is used that way over 130 times in the King James Version of the Bible. In the New Testament the word is used more specifically to indicate non-Jews.
Her children seem to be learning the leftist ideal of "tolerance" -- attack people who are different from you and put on airs of superiority because you yourself are "different." I bet she has never enjoyed a Jewish holiday with her critical attitude, either -- "I don't like the new rabbi ... why did you have to invite cousin so-and-so ... we're not speaking to the Goldfarbs because I think they snubbed us last year ..."
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