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Liberals, Conservatives, Moderates, it's a special time, can we find a little peace?
CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | Dec. 24 2005 | Carlo3b

Posted on 12/24/2005 8:04:58 AM PST by carlo3b

 
Liberals, Conservatives, Moderates, it's a special time, can we find a little peace?

I have been wanting to do this for quite some time. Somewhere deep inside I believe that there can be a bit of common ground between the Left side of the political spectrum, and the Right. Why would we want this, assuming of course that there is someone other than me that would like to see that happen. I believe that there are many things about our wonderful nation that we share that could serve as a starting point to start a healing between us.

I think we should try it, if only for the sacrifice so many have made to afford us this opportunity. If I am right, I'll bet there are some things, more than we imagine, that we have in common, and given a real chance we may find them..

If we can at least agree that we as a nation, have been slowly dividing culturally for quite some time. Perhaps we can even go a bit further, I think our society is sick, and it can use threatening to become truly polarized, to the point of permanent harm to the very fabric of our being..

Help me make a list of those things that make us a country that is united..

Please I am serious, list anything that you can, that you believe you agree  would be a compromise on your part for the good of our nation..

Moderator, please give us a bit of latitude, and maybe we can start a dialogue that will benefit all.. Merry ()

I'll start..
1) As much as it would burn my butt, I believe I could live with Gay Marriage if the Gay community could stop the Gay agenda, infiltration into our public schools, and private businesses.. You know what I mean.. I.E.: School, Diversity training, Gay-Straight, and tolerance BS.. and Boy Scouts, Salivation Army.. etc., I don't want to count the number of right wing conservatives in the offices of the ACLU. You don't want the 10 commandants being taught or a class on religious freedom, and creation, I say we both back down, and teach our own kids..

2) I don't like being told that I can't have religious symbols in the marketplace, but can we agree that any private business should be able to display any religious display it wishes without litigious reprisals? If the anyone in the public hates it, they could avoid that business as they wish..

3) I could live with abortion in cases of forcible rape, and the life of the mother or the baby, and even financial crises.. I am an adoptive parent, and I really can't think of a way to justify giving birth to every baby without a plan to care for it with love and security until maturity..

4) I believe there are still reminisces of sick racial prejudice in pockets of our society but I also believe affirmative action is insidious and cruel in main. I would agree to the harshest of penalty if anyone is caught withholding a job or position simply because of a persons race.. But I must say that I have no idea how to prove a case.. I have seen it happen on both sides and I wanted to scream, perhaps I will the next time, and maybe that is a start..

developing..



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To: bigsigh
And yes, marriage IS a private matter. You didn't vote on my marriage and it was not a public event.

The fact that you are already deceived on this point, is but evidence that the destruction of the institution of marriage is already well underway. Sanctioning deviant sexual behaviour only hastens the demise.

261 posted on 12/24/2005 8:57:31 PM PST by GSHastings
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To: Clemenza
Kum Ba Ya!

That gave me the {{{{Shivers}}}}.. Shame on you.. LOL.. MERRY CHRISTMAS

262 posted on 12/24/2005 8:58:00 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: carlo3b

LOL! Yeah, I think so.


263 posted on 12/24/2005 8:58:41 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: papertyger
And the alternative was...?

To deny that the move of more than 5 million voters from left to right, that these folks had no alternative is .. WHAT? Somewhat disingenuous, no?

264 posted on 12/24/2005 9:07:23 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: Spktyr
To H--- with that, and to H--- with them.

We're organizing a FR prayer circle for you.
Let go of your hate. Before it's too late.

265 posted on 12/24/2005 9:12:16 PM PST by Jorge (Q)
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To: carlo3b
Somewhat disingenuous, no?

No.

How old are you Carlo? Do you "remember" the days of Jimmy Carter?

As for being disingenuous, please elaborate.

266 posted on 12/24/2005 9:14:31 PM PST by papertyger
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To: carlo3b
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. President Reagan proved that was not the case.. 5 million Americans changed their lifelong habit of voting exclusively for Democrats between 1978 and 1984..

Yes, and I am one of them.

267 posted on 12/24/2005 9:14:49 PM PST by Jorge (Q)
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To: carlo3b
There is no common ground. The Left are liars and have been killers throughout history.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. President Reagan proved that was not the case.. 5 million Americans changed their lifelong habit of voting exclusively for Democrats between 1978 and 1984..

Isn't is rather disingenuous to substitute "Democrats" for "Left?"

268 posted on 12/24/2005 9:19:20 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger
I am old enough, and I am so sorry to say I remember Jimmy Carter all to well.. If you are suggesting that folks had no alternative but to vote for Ronald Reagan because of Carter.. save it.. Those same folks could have voted with their friends for Mondale, Dukakis, and Clinton (twice) .. They had an alternative..
269 posted on 12/24/2005 9:29:34 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: papertyger
Isn't is rather disingenuous to substitute "Democrats" for "Left?"

HUH? What is the difference.. LOL

270 posted on 12/24/2005 9:31:29 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: carlo3b

If you call "Sophie's Choice" an alternative.


271 posted on 12/24/2005 9:44:45 PM PST by papertyger
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To: carlo3b
HUH? What is the difference.. LOL

The town I work in is a fine example.

It's been solidly democrat for as long as anyone can remember.

It also hasn't gone for a Democratic presidential candidate for as long as anyone can remember.

I.E. it is a conservative town lacking the political acumen to recognize its party is not representative of its policy.

272 posted on 12/24/2005 9:49:36 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

I'd call your town CONFLICTED.. LOL


273 posted on 12/24/2005 10:06:57 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: carlo3b

We call it "Redneck."

;^>

Merry Christmas!


274 posted on 12/24/2005 10:12:14 PM PST by papertyger
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To: carlo3b
Have a great holiday.

You too. Merry Christmas. :-)

275 posted on 12/24/2005 10:12:38 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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To: carlo3b

"One of the greatest tragedies of our existence is that we are a people united by so many common goals, but divided by so many uncommon beliefs.

I believe that our goals are more important. We all want to be free. We all want our children to be healthy and happy. Most all of us want peace so long as our own rights are protected.

These are the ideals that we can all strive for together. These are the threads of humanity that cannot be torn apart."
SearingTruth


276 posted on 12/24/2005 10:19:13 PM PST by SearingTruth
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To: SearingTruth
We all want to be free. We all want our children to be healthy and happy. Most all of us want peace so long as our own rights are protected. These are the ideals that we can all strive for together. These are the threads of humanity that cannot be torn apart."

Thats the spirit my FRiend.. a worth goal indeed.. :)

277 posted on 12/24/2005 10:25:24 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: Jorge
President Reagan proved that was not the case.. 5 million Americans changed their lifelong habit of voting exclusively for Democrats between 1978 and 1984..

Yes, and I am one of them.

So am I, a true Reaganite.. LOL

278 posted on 12/24/2005 10:28:17 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: carlo3b
Thats the spirit my FRiend.. a worth goal indeed.. :)

Our goals on this thread are the same, even though our political goals are very different.

Merry Christmas my friend, and thanks for posting a thread that gives us all a little reprieve from dissention, with an eloquent invitation to share a little humanity.

As for left wing or right wing, I don't believe in wings. Wings are too fragile. I prefer to be part of the body.
SearingTruth

279 posted on 12/24/2005 10:51:59 PM PST by SearingTruth (Protecting our traditional American values of truth, justice, and freedom for all)
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To: carlo3b

Hi Carlo - I agree with you. I may not agree with you about everything, but on the whole, I think you're right.

I also think the pendulum of public opinion is swinging towards inclusiveness, rather than exclusiveness.

For what that's worth, and I happen to think it means a lot, because we live in a democracy.


280 posted on 12/25/2005 2:37:03 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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