Victoria Osteen and FBI have different views on what occurred aboard airliner

Houston Chronicle ^ | 12-22-05 | ANNE MARIE KILDAY

[MineralMan]

But...aren't they just the cutest couple, those Osteens? Here they are, with Manna from Heaven falling all around them right there in the Lakewood Church. Can't everyone see that she would NEVER have been obnoxious on a plane? She's just soooo sweeeet!

[shield]

Your a moron....so you've read the bible...try studying it...

As far as Victoria is concerned...I could care less about her. I went to LW Church yrs ago when John Osteen was pastor. I've got a boat load of criticism for that church, along with what I know regarding the donations taken in.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions. Proverb 1:7

[fortheDeclaration]

he was indeed dead for three days then GOD bought him back to life as a spirit being.

And he said unto them, why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my free, that it is myself: handle me and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones as ye see me have. (Lk.24:38-39)

[Revolting cat!]

And do check out the "Presidential Seal" on the "Greek" (or is it "Roman") podium!

[tuffydoodle]

"I did not pour that alleged double vodka down her throat."

It was heroin, with a lude chaser.

[indcons]

Read my post again......why don't you study the Bible?

I will not stoop to your gutter level and call you a "moron." I reserve that insult for people whose actions I am aware of and despise - like your queen/heroine, Mrs. Osteen.

[Squantos]

Is this "team" this generations Tammy Fae & Jim Baker Inc fleecing the sheep ?

Just a question....

[MineralMan]

"And do check out the "Presidential Seal" on the "Greek" (or is it "Roman") podium!"

Yeah, I saw that. I think the eagle symbolizes money, though, as when "the eagle s...s," though. This ministry does seem to be a "get all you can through the power of God" sort of ministry, from what I've read on the church's site and elsewhere.

This is an old style of evangelism. "Love God and give me as much money as you possibly can and it will be returned tenfold!" There have been many of these phonies out there over the years.

[TChris]

What? Say it ain't so. An accused individual and the concerned law enforcement agency have differing views on the situation???

Who'da thunk it...

[MineralMan]

"Your a moron....so you've read the bible...try studying it..."

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"Your" is the possessive form of "you." For example, you would use "your" in a sentence like this one: Your ignorance is showing. -or- Your fly is open.

"You're" is a contraction for "You are," often used in sentences like: You're an illiterate moron. -or- You're in error in your English usage.

[fortheDeclaration]

The only preachers who claim Christ descended into hell after His death on the cross are those who have departed from the Truth

Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth (Eph.4:9)

By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison (1Pe.3:19)

Christ went into the part of hell known as 'Abraham's Bosom' to release those OT saints who went there while waiting for Christ to pay for their sins (Lk.16)

[shield]

queen/heroine, Mrs. Osteen

Actually...I've never liked Victoria Osteen one little bit. Joel I've always had a great deal of respect for...not Victoria.

[indcons]

Shhhh....don't tell that loudly. The Victoria Osteen fan club members will be here any moment to call you a "moron" or other choice words. In other words, they'll exhibit their non-existent argumentation and reasoning skills.

[Revolting cat!]

There is a Japanese Buddhist sect Nichiren Shoshu which uses a ritual of chanting the phrase 'nam-yoho-renge-kyo' for material goods and specific tangible returns. The adherents (many of them in the US) swear that it (the changing) works better than compound interest!

[Revolting cat!]

changing=chanting

[Veto!]

The incident apparently stemmed from a spilled liquid on Osteen's seat in the first class section of the airplane. A church spokesman said the spill was not cleaned up to Osteen's satisfaction,

Combine a spill on the seat and a steward or stewardess with attitude (I don't clean up no steenkin spill) and you have the ingredients for a media event. I'm on Victoria's side on this one, having encountered seriously rude behavior from airline employees myself. She didn't want to sit in or have her kid sit in a sticky puddle of pepsi...would you?

[MineralMan]

"Combine a spill on the seat and a steward or stewardess with attitude (I don't clean up no steenkin spill) and you have the ingredients for a media event. I'm on Victoria's side on this one, having encountered seriously rude behavior from airline employees myself."

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You put a folded airline blanket on the seat and shut up. It's not that big a deal. For you, I wish a seat on an airline where something like this happens and you get delayed for two hours. The woman behaved extraordinarily badly, or she would not have been removed from the plane.

[Manfred the Wonder Dawg]

You mis-read all those verses.

Ephesians 4:9 refers to the grave.

1 Peter 3:19 a) is not chronologically lined up within the 3 days that Christ was in the grave. b) "prison" in this verse does NOT mean hell.

Luke chapter 16: I don't find Christ's journey to hell as you've described it, nor do I find the Bible describe "Abraham's bosom" as hell. What is your source?

Many who preach Christ went to hell claim that's where He paid the penalty for our sins. And THAT is the HUGE heresy - that I should have mentioned in my previous post.

Christ paid for all our sin on the cross - not anything that may have happened after He died.

[no dems]

It sounds like Continental Airlines, whose HQ is in Houston, is afraid to take on the Osteens and their huge Houston following for fear of a boycott or something.

[Last Visible Dog]

Preaching makes millionaires of some folks.

From my understanding, Joel made his money through real-estate, not preaching.