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Canada Legalizes "Sex Clubs" - "14-year-olds will be exploited"
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | December 21, 2005 | Gudrun Schultz

Posted on 12/22/2005 8:47:04 PM PST by Founding Father

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To: Founding Father
The age of sexual consent in Canada is 14.

Where are all our liberal-tarian friends who will tell us that setting the age of consent doesn't amount to the government creating a moral law?

They're probably all up in Canada trying to score with 14 year olds...
41 posted on 12/23/2005 8:23:49 AM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles every time a Freeper trashes Santorum.)
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To: Bogolyubski
Oddly, at this juncture, Muslim rule would be preferable in Canada.

Sadly, I agree with you. If given a choice between Sharia and pure hedonism, I'd chose the former.

It's sad that we've chosen to throw away our Judeo-Christian heritage--which is far superior to both of the above choices and the source of the Western concept of liberty--without so much as a fight.
42 posted on 12/23/2005 8:28:45 AM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles every time a Freeper trashes Santorum.)
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To: little jeremiah
"It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke

Amen.

That's the whole shebang in a nutshell.
43 posted on 12/23/2005 8:29:58 AM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles every time a Freeper trashes Santorum.)
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To: little jeremiah
Look at it this way - which is more government fascistic type intrusion - allowing municipalities and states and counties to make their own laws about whether they want legalized orgy clubs or not, or forcing said orgy clubs on everyone by judicial fiat? Hmmm?

Actually, states taking away the rights of citizens (who happen to be sinners per Biblical teachings) is the more intrusive of the two. Nobody forces you or anyone else to attend these clubs. But you along with many others would gladly use force to march these folks to jail by the simple fact that you have a majority and they are a tiny minority.

With that said, I have a some questions for you. Why do you demand that un-saved (or "lost" if you prefer) people live as if they are saved? Aren't Christians nothing but sinners saved by grace? Why would any Christian expect any un-saved person to live as if they were saved? Is it fair to expect that? Is Christianity's role in the world to see that sinners are jailed? Or is its role to pray for sinners, witness to them, and refrain from sinning themselves, all in an effort to lead sinners to Christ?

G-d certainly expects his followers to live by his teachings, but it seems to me that the Bible also teaches that the lost will live like the lost do, in sin. He wants all to follow his moral abosolutes, but he wants us to do so by choice, not by force.

Donning my flame retardant suit now. LOL

44 posted on 12/23/2005 8:43:51 AM PST by Unknown Pundit
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To: little jeremiah

One moral of the story - don't let your 14 yr. old go to Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


45 posted on 12/23/2005 8:50:11 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Scottyboy568
You are aware of course of the human trafficking, illicit drug trade and the unending invasion of our southern border by illegal aliens.
47 posted on 12/23/2005 9:10:40 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: Republican Wildcat
Gorelick should be hired as a consultant in setting up those walls.

She has indeed shown her remarkable aptitude in erecting impenetrable walls. ;)

48 posted on 12/23/2005 9:17:17 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: Tall_Texan
In a related news story, the Minnesota Vikings have announced that next year's training camp has been moved to Thunder Bay, Ontario.

ROTFL!

49 posted on 12/23/2005 9:19:58 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: little jeremiah
If, in fact, it becomes a pending problem for my community, which I doubt, we'll deal with it then according to the will of the people. To wring one's hands over a non-existent, hypothetical and peripheral future community problem is an indication that one has too little to be concerned about and is searching for an issue to worry about. The sexual conduct of other adults, in private, without force, unwilling exploitation, violence or coercion is absolutely no one's business; including--and especially, the government's.

It continues to amaze that the very strong advocates for getting government out of our business conduct is all-too-willing to create law that mandates government oversee our sexual proclivities and punish that conduct of which the ''blue noses'' and ''church ladies'' say are not acceptable (unless engaged in by them in private. Hey, stay the hell out of my bedroom or the bedroom(s) of those who invite others to come in.

50 posted on 12/23/2005 9:22:42 AM PST by middie
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To: Unknown Pundit

You have a serious misunderstanding regarding my viewpoints. I am not a sectarianist, and do not hold the views you think I do. I will reply later, have to go to town shortly.


51 posted on 12/23/2005 9:25:39 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Antoninus

Edmund Burke as the measurment of our private conduct??? You've got to be kidding or exceedingly uninformed on the nature of public policy.


52 posted on 12/23/2005 9:26:12 AM PST by middie
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To: little jeremiah
FOURTEEN YEAR OLDS. Canada is off the cliff already, obviously.

Before the advent of schooling, when children were allowed to grow up, I could (barely) see 14 years of age as a minimum age for marital sex. But non-marital sexual activity? Insane.

53 posted on 12/23/2005 9:26:46 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: middie

Will reply more later.

Since this pro-orgy club decision was not voted on directly by people, or by elected officials, but was merely a judicial decision (and not unanimous), which side is forcing what on people?

Liberaltarians love to talk about over arching government, but they're the ones depending on Nazgul judges enforcing their immorality on people. Let communities decide their own standards. How about that one?


54 posted on 12/23/2005 9:29:28 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: middie

Why? Do you think we have a civil right to group sex?


55 posted on 12/23/2005 9:30:37 AM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles every time a Freeper trashes Santorum.)
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To: Antoninus

Of course you do. Do you believe that government has a right to monitor your bedroom practices?


56 posted on 12/23/2005 9:37:23 AM PST by middie
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To: afnamvet
We need two walls on our borders. One north, one south.

Too bad that wall wasn't built before our culture was polluted with Hollywood
liberal political thought, sex and violence not to mention all that Yankee produced porn.
Kinda late to shut the barn door.

57 posted on 12/23/2005 9:38:46 AM PST by CaptainCanada (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: middie
Of course you do.

We have a Constitutionally protected civil right to group sex? I guess prostitution, sodomy, and incest are all civil rights too, then, eh?

I guess that's why we have had vice laws on the books for the entirety of the existence of our nation. Fortunately for us, you liberal-tarians understand the Constitution better than our Founding Fathers did.
58 posted on 12/23/2005 9:51:35 AM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles every time a Freeper trashes Santorum.)
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To: middie
Do you believe that government has a right to monitor your bedroom practices?

Do you believe that the federal government has the power to force local governing bodies to accept a version of (im)morality that is totally anathema to the people that live in those localities?
59 posted on 12/23/2005 9:54:22 AM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles every time a Freeper trashes Santorum.)
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To: little jeremiah

No problem, looking forward to your responses. BTW, if I don't respond to you over the next few days, it's because I'm away for the holiday. Merry Christmas.


60 posted on 12/23/2005 10:08:54 AM PST by Unknown Pundit
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