Posted on 12/22/2005 7:01:42 PM PST by Peach
Edited on 12/22/2005 7:49:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
They should share the same cell.
So---where does it say that the AG is investigating the leaking creeps? (I'm being nice it's CHRISTMAS)!!
The Republicans should demand a zero tolerance policy: Suspend all access to classified data for any elected official when there is a reasonable suspicion that they leaked anything or otherwise mishandles classified info. This is not a game.
BTTT
Thanks to all. I'm impressed with the case laws cited. There are a lot.
Are the dems just idiots? Oh wait, nevermind.
And yes, Rockefeller needs to be investigated and then charged with treason. That would slow down the leaks.
ping, case law cited for Bush's 'spying'
I am sure you are correct. That idiot "outting of Flame" was so insignificant especially since Fitzmas wouldn't indict anyone for the outting under either law, so that makes me think it could have been orchestrated by the Bush hating CIA. BUT I cannot believe a CIA employee who knew of this classified program, and hence would know the felony implications of disclosure, would knowingly leak it. IMO it had to be leaked from the Congress, who always believe they are above the law. When you are an employee of the CIA, NSA, NRO, etc. you realize that you will loose more than your job - you loose your life (go directly to prison). Congress doesn't think that way - too cozy of a club if you ask me.
THE PRESIDENT: Let me start with the first question. There is a process that goes on inside the Justice Department about leaks, and I presume that process is moving forward. My personal opinion is it was a shameful act for someone to disclose this very important program in a time of war. The fact that we're discussing this program is helping the enemy.
And so the Justice Department, I presume, will proceed forward with a full investigation. I haven't ordered one, because I understand there's kind of a natural progression that will take place when this kind of leak emerges.
Oh Come On people. Nothing is going to happen to the NYT, Rockerfeller, Durbin, etc. You all constantly pi$$ in the wind. Haven't you by now know that the REAL government
(shadow government) won't allow a lib/commie to be criminally charged. Bush is all talk & Gonzales probably urinates while sitting on a toilet seat.
BTTT
I can't argue with a single point that you made.
This will blow over, Bush will be smeared, the Dem leakers won't be even touched up at all, and the next major "Bush scandal" will rear its head about January 20th.
Wash, rinse, repeat. This is getting old.
Once the MSM discovers that Carter and Clintoon did the same thing, this will quickly disappear just like the litany of "We got Bush cornered" stories go away. It will be replaced by a new Bush hating story before Jan 1, my guess. And yes you are probably right if the leaker is a congresscritter they won't be touched. BUT the DOJ can go after "author Risen" and the NYT IMHO.
The CIA and State Department have been leaking information to the press and selected members of Congress to undermine the White House since the run up to Iraq. At this point it's hard for me to believe that there aren't multiple people involved or even that this is just partisan politics.
If the DOJ DOESN'T go after the NYT reporter to see who the leaker was it SHOULD invalidate the Fitzermans case on Plame.
But it won't.
Authorization During Time Of WarThe House amendments contained a provision which would allow the President to authorize electronic surveillance for periods up to a year during time of war declared by Congress. The Senate bill had no comparable provision.
The conference substitute retains the House language but adds the further requirement that the Attorney General inform the intelligence committees of the facts and circumstances giving rise to the need for such authority, the scope of such authority, and the standards to be employed in exercising such authority.
The conference substitute adopts a compromise provision authorizing the President, through the Attorney General, to authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this title to acquire foreign intelligence information for a period not to exceed 15 calendar days following a declaration of war by the Congress.
The conferees intend that this period will allow time for consideration of any amendment to this act that may be appropriate during a wartime emergency. The conferees also intend that all other provisions of this act not pertaining to the court order requirement shall remain in effect during this period. The conferees expect that such amendment would be reported with recommendations within 7 days and that each house would vote on the amendment within 7 days thereafter.
Exclusive Means For Electronic Surveillance
The Senate bill provided that the procedures in this bill and in chapter 119 of title 18, United States Code, shall be the exclusive means by which electronic surveillance, as defined in this bill, and the interception of domestic wire and oral communications may be conducted.
The House amendments provided that the procedures in this bill and in chapter 119 of Title 18, U.S.C. shall be the exclusive statutory means by which electronic surveillance as defined in this bill and the interception of domestic wire and oral communications may be conducted.
The conference substitute adopts the Senate provision which omits the word 'statutory.' The conferees agree that the establishment by this act of exclusive means by which the president may conduct electronic surveillance does not foreclose a different decision by the Supreme Court. The intent of the conferees is to apply the standard set forth in Justice Jackson's concurring opinion in the steel seizure case: 'When a president takes measures incompatible with the express or implied will of congress, his power is at the lowest ebb, for then he can rely only upon his own constitutional power minus any Constitutional power of Congress over the matter.' Youngstown Sheet And Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 u.s. 579, 637 (1952)
And on the note, dimoRATS, shut up!
" Judge Richard Posner's letter supporting the administration's NSA spy program. "
Tonight, I caught a few minutes of Hardball, because Judge Posner was on via telephone.
Andrea Mitchell, the Queen of Chutzpah, argued with the Judge and basically told him that he didn't know what he was talking about.
Then she talked about " The War on Terrier."
Which explains why the media and the Democrats don't understand the WOT-they think it's a conspiracy against dogs.
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