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Assistant Attorney General's Letters to Senate Intelligence Committee Regarding NSA Spying Program
Attorney General's Office ^ | December 22, 2005 | Assistant Attorney General

Posted on 12/22/2005 7:01:42 PM PST by Peach

Edited on 12/22/2005 7:49:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: eyespysomething

I don't understand it either, but I do understand enough to know that the AG's office thinks they have solid case law behind them. And I do know that no president in our nation's history has ever ceded authority to defend the country to any legislative body or any court of law.


21 posted on 12/22/2005 7:18:55 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: tet68

I pray you're right. At this point, Rockefeller, or whomever leaked this information, is a danger to our country and has access to our most valuable secrets.


22 posted on 12/22/2005 7:19:40 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

We'll never know how many attacks this program prevented.


23 posted on 12/22/2005 7:21:06 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

The NYT article from last week mentioned two attacks that were prevented. One would have been the Brooklyn Bridge.

And that's just what they know about; I'm sure there are others.


24 posted on 12/22/2005 7:22:57 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: eyespysomething

Alright can you give a synopsis?

In laymen terms...NYT and whoever leaked that information could be charged with treason if SOMEONE acts on it.


25 posted on 12/22/2005 7:23:28 PM PST by kajingawd (" happy with stone underhead, let Heaven and Earth go about their changes")
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To: Peach

You're right, the Republicans have continued to cock the mouth against the President before the facts and in this case the law is affirmed and I'm sick of it too. They better start doing their jobs the way their constituents hired them to do it or they won't have a job.


27 posted on 12/22/2005 7:26:33 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Peach

The senate must do something about ROCKEFELLA AND TURBIN...when vacation is over, if not sooner.


28 posted on 12/22/2005 7:29:22 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Cboldt

Thank you for posting that here.


29 posted on 12/22/2005 7:30:54 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: shield

Agreed. I don't want to read that Rockefeller has attended one more security briefing, unless or until he's cleared.

His phone baloney letter to Cheney was CYA. I loved it when Chairman Roberts came out and said that it was strange because just two weeks ago, Rockefeller was with Cheney and didn't express any concern, in fact, sounded happy with the program. LOL. Snagged.


30 posted on 12/22/2005 7:32:42 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: eyespysomething
"There is no way I will understand this rigamarole."
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Great Point. I think I can make it simple. If you are receiving, have received in the past, or called foreign agents believed to be al-qaeda or related terrorists the NSA eavesdropped (THANK GOD). If one of our soldiers found a lap top in a safe house with phone numbers the NSA probably eavesdropped to find out what the new numbers would be.
They did not go through the FISA process that everybody talks about because putting the application forms together can take days to weeks and with terrorism everything is time sensitive. In the Constitution the President is given the responsibility of being the commander and chief and seeing to the protection of the country, especially in a time of war.
31 posted on 12/22/2005 7:33:15 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get out of the Way!)
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To: Peach
What I don't know is that we can do besides ensure that the talk show hosts and radio hosts know about this letter and others and write letters to the editor ourselves.

Bad timing to count on the talkies with most being out now or will be next week. This would be a good time for a hungry fill in to grab this and keep it alive.

Problem is the subs I've heard just want to talk fluff and gays. I think W-I-L-K-O-W will be in for the Great one tomorrow and hopefully next week.

32 posted on 12/22/2005 7:37:39 PM PST by Mr Cobol (.Liberalism isn't a political philosophy. It's a vile combination of sickness and evil—M Schiller)
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To: eyespysomething
Here's the bottom line of this memo.

Under Article 11 of the Constitution, including in his capacity as Commander in Chief, the President has the responsibility to protect the Nation from further attacks, and the Constitution gives him all necessary authority to fulfill that duty. See, e.g., Prize Cases, 67 U.S. (2 Black) 635, 668 (1 863) (stressing that if the Nation is invaded, "the President is not only authorized but hound to resist by force . . . . without waiting for any special legislative authority");

"Force" means the application of military power, of which intelligence collection is one aspect. The following explains the scope of that mandate a little further.

The AUMF authorizes the President "to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, . . . in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States." 5 2(a),

Okay, but isn't Al Qaida only in Afghanistan? How does that make it legal to go after them in America?

The AUMF cannot be read as limited to authorizing the use of force against Afghanistan, as some have argued. Indeed, those who directly "committed" the attacks of September 11 resided in the United States for months before those attacks. The reality of the September 11 plot demonstrates that the authorization of force covers activities both on foreign soil and in America.

That's basically it. Al Qaida personnel in America are considered agents of a foriegn power, and that foriegn power is in an open state of armed conflict with us. Simply put, they are not criminals, they are invaders.

33 posted on 12/22/2005 7:41:17 PM PST by Steel Wolf (* No sleep till Baghdad! *)
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To: Peach

Peach, I pray so also, it's time the fear of god was put into these godless scum, ever since the "Pentagon papers"
the left has felt above the law in this regard.
It is past time they were shown that there is a price to
be paid for betraying one's countrymen.

A Senator or two in federal prison would certainly make
the rest more circumspect.


34 posted on 12/22/2005 7:41:45 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Okay, but isn't Al Qaida only in Afghanistan?

No.

36 posted on 12/22/2005 7:56:55 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Warning: Adult language, but great Christmas message: http://foamy.libertech.net/noxmas.swf)
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To: tet68

The Times should be prosecuted for publishing this information. It's time to do something about this once and for all. The Republicans have let the liberals run ALL OVER THEM- IT'S DISGUSTING!!!


37 posted on 12/22/2005 7:58:32 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Peach
"Under Article II of the Constitution, including in his capacity as Commander in Chief, the President has the responsibility to protect the Nation from further attacks, and the Constitution gives him all necessary authority to fulfill that duty."

"The President stated that these activities are crucial to our national security." The President further explained that "the unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk. Revealing classified information is illegal, alerts our enemies, and endangers our country." These critical national security activities remain classified. All United States laws and policies governing the protection and nondisclosure of national security information. including the information relating to the activities described by the President, remain in full force and effect. The unauthorized disclosure of classified information violates federal criminal law. The Government may provide further classified briefings to the Congress on these activities in an appropriate manner. Any such briefings will be conducted in a manner that will not endanger national security."

Damn the leftist traitors. Full speed ahead!

38 posted on 12/22/2005 8:04:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Peach

Take that Barbara (Impeach Bush) Boxer. Eat crow you demorat darlin.


39 posted on 12/22/2005 8:05:31 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Peach

I have said from the beginning that it was some slimy Democrat politician that turned this dog loose. I hope whoever it is is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Its time the President stopped playing around with these people . He overlooked all of Bill Clintons crap but its time he took action.


40 posted on 12/22/2005 8:07:03 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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