Sounds like I should have moved to Montreal and become a condom salesman -- :-)
This is the country that believes two men and two women have the "right" to marry. What's decency got to do with it?
feet first.......
>>>>Two Montreal "swingers" clubs did not breach Canadian standards of decency when they allowed group sex to take place on their premises, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled this morning.
Ok, I can't get past this oxymoron. What is this article about?
The slippery slope is at tailwind speeds.
Ever see people who go to swingers clubs??
ICK...AS ugly as Canadians are, as a group, I shudder to think what those slugs look like....
its enough to turn even the randiest man, celibate...
"In its latest attempt to set guidelines that govern sexual morality in Canada, the top court said two swingers clubs in Montreal were not operating as illegal “bawdy houses,” because what went on there did not cause any harm to society."
Yes, they only served as the staging point for the AIDS epidemic here in America, causing massive headaches to the CDC as they tried to trace partners and find patient "zeros". But Canada's different, right? They're, you know, north and stuff.
Idiocy in its purest form.
Sounds like the correct decision to me. Consenting adults and all, government has no business in the bedroom.
****The decision could make it easier for other venues where group sex takes place among consenting adults - such as gay bath houses - to operate without the threat of police intervention*****
You folks seem to have missed the whole crux of the decision.
The queers want their gay bath houses made legal ,If the heteros have a club where sex is permitted the queers can do the same.
However, since we are responsible for our individual moral behavior, and should also be subject to its consequences - this includes job termination, being kicked out of place of worship, and so on, at the behest of private individuals. Not the damn government.
later pingout.
I live in a fairly conservative state, but I know for a fact that we have swingers clubs here... (Florida)
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
Moral Absolutes Ping.
This is bad. Not good. Libertarians posit the argument that the goverment has no business regulating sexual behavior as long as it is between adults and not forced. It reminds of the Texas/Lawrence sodomy decision. If perverted and/or immoral sexual behavior is legitimized by government decision, then the next step is that we all must "tolerate" it, then "celebrate" it, and then any words or actions expressing our "intolerance" will be forbidden. The government stays out of the sex lives of people by NOT passing laws or decisions promoting immorality.
This decision PROMOTES perverted and immoral sexual behavior. That is not neutrality. It is promotion. Sexual immorality is not benign, it is extremely destructive, both to individuals, and when enough individuals are messed up, society as a whole. Here's a relevant quote from George Washington which I got today via the Federalist (called the Patriot Post now, I think):
"[A] good moral character is the first essential in a man, and
that the habits contracted at your age are generally indelible,
and your conduct here may stamp your character through life.
It is therefore highly important that you should endeavor not
only to be learned but virtuous."
-- George Washington (letter to Steptoe Washington, 5 December
1790)
Virtuous character is more important than higher education, money, nice cars and shoes and teeth, high position in society. Moral absolutes matter, and when egregious immorality is sanctioned and promoted by government decisions, we know that our society is on its way into the oblivion of time.
Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.
Note: We need to remember that God has given rules about sexual behavior and they are remarkably consistent throughout the world's religions. Fire isn't bad - it can cook food, heat our homes, fire up industry - or it can burn up houses, forests, and kill people. Sex is very similar.
Here's another article about this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1544776/posts?page=7
Swingers clubs don't harm society, top court rules (Canada)
It's ultimately a self-correcting problem, just like riding motorcycles really fast without a helmet.
If you really hate immoral people, go ahead and let these clubs open, expand and prosper.
Then set up a building selling them cemetery plots.
Ugly and sad, but true.
There is a self-enforcing aspect of sexual morality.