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Mexico Promises to Block Border Wall Plan
AP ^ | Dec 20 05 | Victor Bermudez

Posted on 12/20/2005 5:33:14 PM PST by Icelander

MEXICO CITY - The Mexican government, angered by a U.S. proposal to extend a wall along the border to keep out migrants, pledged Tuesday to block the plan and organize an international campaign against it. Facing a growing tide of anti-immigrant sentiment north of the border, the Mexican government has taken out ads urging Mexican workers to denounce rights violations in the United States. It also is hiring an American public relations firm to improve its image and counter growing U.S. concerns about immigration.

Mexican President Vicente Fox denounced the U.S. measures, passed by the House of Representatives on Friday, as "shameful" and his foreign secretary, Luis Ernesto Derbez, echoed his complaints on Tuesday.

"Mexico is not going to bear, it is not going to permit, and it will not allow a stupid thing like this wall," Derbez said.

"What has to be done is to raise a storm of criticism, as is already happening, against this," he said, promising to turn the international community against the plan.

Some stretches of the U.S.-Mexico border are already marked by fences, but in some heavily-trafficked sections walls have already been erected by the United States, often using 10-foot-high sections of military surplus steel. Those sections, which typically run several miles, can be found in southern Arizona and California.

It's hard to underestimate the ill-feeling the proposal has generated in Mexico, where editorial pages are dominated by cartoons of Uncle Sam putting up walls bearing anti-Mexican messages.

Many Mexicans, especially those who have spent time working in the U.S., feel the proposal is a slap in the face to those who work hard and contribute to the U.S. economy.

Fernando Robledo, 42, of the western state of Zacatecas, says the proposals could stem migration and disrupt families by breaking cross- border ties.

"When people heard this, it worried everybody, because this will affect everybody in some way, and their families," Robledo said. "They were incredulous. How could they do this, propose something like this?"

Robledo, whose son and mother are U.S. citizens, predicted the measure "would unleash conflict within the United States" as small businesses fail for lack of workers.

He said many Mexicans felt betrayed by the anti-immigrant sentiment.

"We learned to believe in the United States. We have a binational life," he said of Zacatecas, a state that has been sending migrants north for more than a century. "It isn't just a feeling of rejection. It's against what we see as part of our life, our culture, our territory."

The government is scrambling to fight on two fronts. On Monday, it announced it had hired Allyn & Company, a Dallas-based public relations company to help improve Mexico's image and stem the immigration backlash.

"If people in the U.S. and Canada had an accurate view of the success of democracy, political stability and economic prosperity in Mexico, it would improve their views on specific bilateral issues like immigration and border security," Rob Allyn, president of the PR firm, told The Associated Press Tuesday.

Jose Luis Soberanes, head of the government's National Human Rights Commission, suggested Mexico go further.

"I would expect more energetic reactions from our authorities," Soberanes told local media. "It's preferable to have a more demanding government, more confrontation with the United States."

Mexico has also said it is recruiting U.S. church, community and business groups to oppose the proposal.

And the government has stepped up its defense of migrants, airing a series of radio spots here aimed at migrants returning home for the holidays.

"Had a labor accident in the United States? You have rights ... Call," reads the ad, sponsored by Mexico's Foreign Relations Department, which has helped migrants bring compensation suits in the United States.

The sense of dread connected with the measures is hardly restricted to Mexico. Immigrant advocacy and aid groups in the United States are worried about provisions of the House bill that upgrade unlawful presence in the United States from a civil offense to a felony.

"It would have a horrific impact on immigrants right organizing and immigrant communities" in the United States, said Jennifer Allen of the Tucson, Ariz.-based Red de Accion Fronteriza.

The mistaken belief that the proposals are a done deal _ they must still be submitted to the Senate _ have caused "just complete fear and shock" among some activists and immigrants, Allen said.

The House bill, passed on a 239-182 vote, includes a proposal to build 700 miles of additional fence through parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. It would also enlist military and local law enforcement to help stop illegal entrants and require employers to verify the legal status of their workers.

Mexicans are outraged by the proposed measures, especially the extension of the border wall, which many liken to the Berlin Wall. Some are urging their government to fight it fiercely.

"Our president should oppose that wall and make them stop it, at all costs," said Martin Vazquez, 26, at the Mexico City airport as he returned from his job as a hotel worker in Las Vegas. "More than just insulting, it's terrible."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; borders; bush; homelandsecurity; illegal; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; schadenfraude; wall
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To: Icelander

Mexico's foreign secretary needs to take a long walk north. After his sorry butt gets hauled out of the desert by American tax dollars and volunteers, he might have a leetle more respect. If not make him walk back too.(make sure he gets some of those free designer sneakers too!)


21 posted on 12/20/2005 5:44:13 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Icelander
"Mexico is not going to bear, it is not going to permit, and it will not allow a stupid thing like this wall," How many divisions does mexico have?
22 posted on 12/20/2005 5:44:54 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: Icelander
What a hypocrite Mexico is.

Let Americans get away with the stuff that Mexicans do here in America. They'd be stuffed away in a dingy cell so fast it'll make your head swim. American tourists are always being hassled in Mexico.

23 posted on 12/20/2005 5:45:12 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Icelander

What has to be done is to start a campaign of saturation bombing of the entire border region, including the dropping of anti-personal mines in an area 1 KM south of the border.

Then we implement well regulated and patroled "safe passage lanes" for legal commerce and turn the rest of the border into a kill zone.

How's that, Vicente? You want to party? Bring it on. jefe.


24 posted on 12/20/2005 5:46:04 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: RedRover
Why do Guatemalans have no right to waltz across the border "norte" but Mexicans have the right to come and go as they please in the U.S.?

Speaking of which...have you ever tried to waltz across the border into Mexico??? You can't even take a four hour drive once you are in Mexico, without at least two or three stops with searches by the military.

25 posted on 12/20/2005 5:47:32 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Icelander
Mexican President Vicente Fox denounced the U.S. measures, passed by the House of Representatives on Friday, as "shameful" and his foreign secretary, Luis Ernesto Derbez, echoed his complaints on Tuesday."

And has Dubya Bush countered the "war of words" by characterizing Fox's reaction as "odd"?

26 posted on 12/20/2005 5:49:05 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Icelander

"denounce rights violations "

And what would those be? American rights or Mexican?


27 posted on 12/20/2005 5:49:38 PM PST by DurtySanches (With religion anything is possible, with science only the possible is possible.)
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To: Icelander
Oh ....so as long as we let immigrants break our laws and cross the boarder illegally they will not shine the spotlight on our "abuses" of said immigrants...

Sounds like a compromise born in h@ll and based on lies.

Have these people been talking to the DNC?

28 posted on 12/20/2005 5:50:36 PM PST by Earthdweller ("West to Islam" Cake. Butter your liberals, slowly cook France, stir in Europe then watch it rise.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Because of the ideology of globalism - which is liberalism's government "diversty" slogans, Mexico mistakes itself as powerful enough to dictate to the US and all other countries. What a mistake...BIG MISTAKE.


29 posted on 12/20/2005 5:52:39 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Icelander

"Re-Conquista NUNCA VEZ !!!"

Hear me Burro?

Mexico will be the territory of the United States of America long before even one inch of America becomes "Mexican".

Guess that they don't like Robert Frost in Mexico, because, "good fences make good neighbors."


30 posted on 12/20/2005 5:53:24 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound ("Si vis pacem, para bellum", If you wish peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Get caught with bullets in your car--no guns--just bullets, you go to jail in Mexico.

Why don't they teach English in Mexican schools? When I go to Mexico, they expect me to read, speak Spanish.

31 posted on 12/20/2005 5:53:39 PM PST by lonestar (Me, too--Weinie)
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To: Icelander
OKAY. They don't want a wall? Let's try something different...
32 posted on 12/20/2005 5:53:50 PM PST by LSUfan
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To: Icelander

I thought Mexico would like the wall.

After all, just think or the Murals they could paint on that sucker . . .

LOL!


33 posted on 12/20/2005 5:54:16 PM PST by Petruchio ( ... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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To: linear

Any questions I had about the wall were answered by this emotional tirade.

--I know now: The wall will work--


34 posted on 12/20/2005 5:55:14 PM PST by Cyclops08
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To: jwh_Denver

Mexico Promises to Block Border Wall Plan

and in response:

I'll promise that I'll enter the number of illegals that are in our country on line 6D of my 2005 form 1040 as the dependants I appear to have. Everybody against illegals needs to follow suit.


35 posted on 12/20/2005 5:55:52 PM PST by diverteach
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To: Icelander
Border Wall Plan..

We're heading back to the "castle era"...

I dont see any danger if Mexico is going to be mad about this... are they going to send their special forces?

36 posted on 12/20/2005 5:56:44 PM PST by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: Icelander

I love to hear a pig squeal.


37 posted on 12/20/2005 5:57:26 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Icelander
The Mexican government, angered by a U.S. proposal to extend a wall along the border to keep out migrants, pledged Tuesday to block the plan and organize an international campaign against it.

Block the plan? Excuse me? The nerve...

"We learned to believe in the United States. We have a binational life," he said of Zacatecas, a state that has been sending migrants north for more than a century. "It isn't just a feeling of rejection. It's against what we see as part of our life, our culture, our territory."

Gee, that's nice but the part about a "binational life" and seeing the USA as part of "our territory" is exactly the problem we have with the illegal immigrants and Mexico.

Understand this: The USA is NOT a part of Mexico and Mexican nationals who come to the USA illegally and a live a life here, breaking the laws of the USA and in doing so steal from the citizens of the USA are the reason why we want a border fence/wall. Securing our borders and enforcing our laws is the duty of government officials.

38 posted on 12/20/2005 5:57:28 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: Icelander

This is just UFB.

"It isn't just a feeling of rejection. It's against what we see as part of our life, our culture, our territory."

It's not YOURS until you pay for it. Illegals have been living free off of US taxpayers for decades. Our porous borders will be the death of us one way or the other: terrorist attack or economic suicide.


39 posted on 12/20/2005 5:57:32 PM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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To: Icelander
"Mexico is not going to bear, it is not going to permit, and it will not allow..........

That third-world abortion of a nation sure has an inflated opinion of itself...

40 posted on 12/20/2005 5:57:42 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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