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ADL: Evangelicals threat to religious pluralism [BARF!]
YNet News ^ | Dec. 21, 2005 | Yaakov Lappin

Posted on 12/20/2005 4:41:33 PM PST by Alouette

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman tells reporters in Jerusalem that U.S. Evangelicals are threat to America's religious pluralism. In an interview with Ynetnews, Foxman says he is not concerned with Christian support for Israel, does not see Spielberg's new film as attack on Israel

U.S. Evangelicals are threatening America's rich tradition of religious pluralism, Anti-Defamation League (ADL) Director Abraham Foxman told a press conference in Jerusalem Tuesday.

While referring to American Christian Evangelicals as "our friends," Foxman went on to warn: "If they succeed on their domestic agenda, to change the balance of the separation of church and state, and bring America closer to a Christian nation, as they wish, if they would judge candidates as they wish to judge them, by whether or not they will act under Jesus' philosophy, how many Jews do you think will eventually get elected?"

Foxman said that Evangelical Christians are attempting to implement changes "by legislation," adding that religious organizations in the United States are aiming to control "what pharmacists may or may not dispense, what operations can or cannot be undertaken, and what books can be read."

"What we found distressing was that, unlike the past when the debate was Judeo-Christian values… today the discussion is: Christian. It's not God, its Jesus. It's a particularist truth that is being promoted," Foxman said.

The ADL leader dismissed claims made by some Christian conservatives in the U.S. that there was a coordinated campaign against the Christian holiday of Christmas, saying: "There's nobody at war on Christmas. 95 percent of the country is Christian. No body's fighting them. It's a made up conflict."

'Growing phenomenon'

Foxman added that "what was troubling was that those pushing for a particularist truth have convinced that the majority of America that religion and Christianity is under attack in the United States. It's a growing phenomenon... motivated by faith."

In an ominous warning, he added that while the intent was not anti-Semitic, "the Hollywood media" was a common reply given to the question of who was plotting against Christmas.

"If this campaign succeeds… the unintended result is to undermine the pluralism of our country," Foxman said.

Speaking to Ynetnews, Foxman fell short of extending his domestic concerns over the activities of U.S. Evangelical groups to their relationship with Israel. Their support was "based on theology," he said.

"They believe in the second coming, I'm waiting for the first," Foxman said, adding that he was not worried about the motive behind the Evangelicals' support.

'Spielberg is not the enemy of Israel'

The ADL leader said he had attended a private screening of Steven Spielberg's film, "Munich," which deals with the 1972 massacre of Israeli athletes by Palestinian terrorists, and Israel's subsequent pursuit of those behind the murders.

"We do not think this is an attack on Israel," Foxman said, adding that there was "no moral equivalency" portrayed between the terrorists and Israeli agents.

"It shows unbridled, brutal terrorism on the part of the Palestinians. It shows the need to respond. Also, this is not a documentary… it's a work of fiction based on a historical event. It was a movie waiting to be made. And if anybody makes it, if I had my choice, it wouldn't be Mel Gibson. It would be Spielberg. And all of the sudden to make Spielberg the enemy of Israel and the Jewish people… is a distortion of what it's all about," he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ac; adl; christiannation; evangelicals; fearfuldems; foxman; persecution; waronchristmas
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To: sarasmom

Lots of blacks support Jesse Jackson...and I suspect a lot of Jews support Abe Foxman.

90%+ of blacks vote Dem and about 75% of Jews do.


21 posted on 12/20/2005 5:25:33 PM PST by Sometimes A River (Your hands and feet are mangoes, but you're gonna be a genius anyway)
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To: Alouette
Considering the current peril of European and Israeli Jews the ADL's priorities seem rather questionable. Religious Christians in the US are virtually the only 100% reliable friend that Israel has. Its a good thing the Mr. Foxman won't be successful in alienating our friendship no matter how much hate he spews.

Abe Foxman has now officially donned the mantle of "The Jewish Al Sharpton."
22 posted on 12/20/2005 5:37:10 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Alouette

Do these people even have the foggiest notion about what motivates the average evangelical Christian?


23 posted on 12/20/2005 5:40:21 PM PST by July4th64 ("I hope that I may never have another 4 years of such anxiety, tribulation, and abuse." A. Lincoln)
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To: Alouette
I think we are too tough on Foxman. He has a big problem--Jews are more accepted in this country than any other country outside of Israel. No way around it.

So how do you keep antisemitism and the need for funds to counteract it alive? One way is to come up with a bogey man--Evangelical Christians. For sure there are several or more very rich Jews who will not only agree with Foxman but give a lot to keep things going. If there is a worry it seems to be Evangelical proselytizers will grab their kids.

Nothing but a cheap hustle by Foxman et al. Not really reflective of Judaism and especially Observant, Torah based Judaism.

24 posted on 12/20/2005 5:43:40 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: Alouette

"...what was troubling ..."

who's the WE ????

Foxman is a leftist first, last, and always. THEN, maybe, he's a Jew. ADL would be well rid of him or anticipate a future with declining support.


25 posted on 12/20/2005 5:47:39 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Alouette

Given the liberals' utter intolerance of traditional Christian believers, as demonstrated by Foxman, I think it is the liberals that are the threat to religious pluralism in this country. He wants the government to impose his religion of liberalism on everyone and to silence dissenting voices against the liberal establishment.


26 posted on 12/20/2005 5:50:38 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: July4th64

"Do these people even have the foggiest notion about what motivates the average evangelical Christian?"

Apparently not.


27 posted on 12/20/2005 5:51:53 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Alouette

Abe Foxman=Adam Czerniakow


28 posted on 12/20/2005 6:01:40 PM PST by avile
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To: Alouette

I just received this as an e-mail forward...looks like posting it here will be appropritae:

For Our Democratic Friends:

"Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, our best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. We also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2006, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere. And without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee. By accepting these greetings you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for herself or himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher."



For Our Republican Friends:

Here's wishing all of You a

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year


29 posted on 12/20/2005 6:03:26 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Alouette

An open letter to Abe Foxman

Dear Abe,

I know you don't particularly like those of us who are Evangelicals and although I sometimes wonder why, be assured that we always protect your right to hammer us with your ill-conceived screed.

You can also be assured that we will continue to support Israel and its people because they are the Chosen Ones. We will continue to welcome Jews into this country and honor their heritage and religion and we will continue to support the Holy Land as best we can.

And even when if you call us snot-slurping hillbillies, our love and regard for our Jewish brothers and sisters will not change.

So now that I have layed out our position, I would like to add that part of the reason we operate in this manner is that most us regard you, Abe, as a leftwing f@rt in a rightwing hurricane.

Have a nice day,
TTTC


30 posted on 12/20/2005 6:12:51 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: Alouette

Who is Foxman and the ADL more likely to support:

1.A wealthy secular Jewish Zimri suing to get into a WASP country club or

2. an orthodox college student trying to get a kosher meal plan


31 posted on 12/20/2005 6:15:34 PM PST by avile (does anyone remember the Yale Five?)
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To: Acts 2:38

And you got those voting statistics from...?

Last time I registered to vote, and every previous time I have registered to vote, the only requested voter differential was political party preference, if any.

Nowhere on any of the voter registration forms I filled out did it ask for my race or religion.

Just because the MSM states "everyone says" something does not make it a true thing.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Same as there ever was.








32 posted on 12/20/2005 6:20:59 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Alouette
Christians are tired of being kicked around by Abe and his left wing pals and you can bet, they are kicking back. He's freaked and that is a good thing. He is a bigot; a liberal bigot that Christians have obeyed for too long. He wants to pin it on "Evangelicals" but it goes much deeper bin the US population than that.
33 posted on 12/20/2005 6:21:11 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking the keyword Israel.

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34 posted on 12/20/2005 6:26:02 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: Alouette

Is Abe having a meltdown? Or looking for a career as a movie critic.


35 posted on 12/20/2005 6:28:26 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Foxman said that Evangelical Christians are attempting to implement changes "by legislation,"

Funny, I thought we were just trying to reverse the legislative changes wrought by liberals.


36 posted on 12/20/2005 6:37:43 PM PST by July4th64 ("I hope that I may never have another 4 years of such anxiety, tribulation, and abuse." A. Lincoln)
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To: sarasmom

Those are pretty well accepted stats.

I've seen them in various publications, both electronic and paper.

There may be some slight variance election to election, but those numbers are pretty much the national norm.


37 posted on 12/20/2005 6:42:34 PM PST by Sometimes A River (Your hands and feet are mangoes, but you're gonna be a genius anyway)
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To: July4th64

"Funny, I thought we were just trying to reverse the legislative changes wrought by liberals."

Wrought by judicial fiat, you mean?


38 posted on 12/20/2005 7:00:10 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Alouette

There has been religion "on the public square" since in this country since it was colonized and it never became a theocracy. These people are crackpots.


39 posted on 12/20/2005 7:37:27 PM PST by virgil
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To: SJackson; neverdem

http://www.beforeyougo.us/

tribute to our military - WW II

pass it on


40 posted on 12/20/2005 7:56:35 PM PST by bitt ('More bad news for the terrorists: This president is no Lyndon Johnson. He won't quit.')
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