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Judge: ACLU not 'reasonable Court whacks civil-liberties group, OKs Ten Commandments display
World Net Daily ^ | December 20, 2005

Posted on 12/20/2005 2:01:25 PM PST by churchillbuff

A U.S. appeals court today upheld the decision of a lower court in allowing the inclusion of the Ten Commandments in a courthouse display, hammering the American Civil Liberties Union and declaring, "The First Amendment does not demand a wall of separation between church and state."

Attorneys from the American Center for Law and Justice successfully argued the case on behalf of Mercer County, Ky., and a display of historical documents placed in the county courthouse. The panel voted 3-0 to reject the ACLU's contention the display violated the Establishment Clause of the Constitution.

The county display the ACLU sued over included the Ten Commandments, the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence, the Magna Charta, the Star Spangled Banner, the National Motto, the Preamble to the Kentucky Constitution, the Bill of Rights to the U. S. Constitution and a picture of Lady Justice.

Writing for the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals, Judge Richard Suhrheinrich said the ACLU's "repeated reference 'to the separation of church and state' ... has grown tiresome. The First Amendment does not demand a wall of separation between church and state."

Suhrheinrich wrote: "The ACLU, an organization whose mission is 'to ensure that ... the government [is kept] out of the religion business,' does not embody the reasonable person."

The court said a reasonable observer of Mercer County's display appreciates "the role religion has played in our governmental institutions, and finds it historically appropriate and traditionally acceptable for a state to include religious influences, even in the form of sacred texts, in honoring American traditions."

Francis J. Manion, Counsel for the ACLJ, argued the case before both the 6th Circuit and the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky.

"This is a big victory for the people of Mercer County and Kentucky generally," said Manion in a statement. "For too long they have been lectured like children by those in the ACLU and elsewhere who claim to know what the people's Constitution really means. What the Sixth Circuit has said is that the people have a better grasp on the real meaning of the Constitution; the Court recognizes that the Constitution does not require that we strip the public square of all vestiges of our religious heritage and traditions."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: aclj; aclu; aclulist; gramsci; lawsuit; mercercounty; moralabsolutes; ruling; tencommandments
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To: churchillbuff

"Fortunately, the reasonable person is not a hyper-sensitive plaintiff."

Boy! If that isn't an accurate description of the ACLU, then I don't know what is.


21 posted on 12/20/2005 2:22:01 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: churchillbuff
"the role religion has played in our governmental institutions, and finds it historically appropriate and traditionally acceptable for a state to include religious influences, even in the form of sacred texts, in honoring American traditions."

100% CORRECT!!

22 posted on 12/20/2005 2:25:16 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: churchillbuff
"The First Amendment does not demand a wall of separation between church and state."

I never thought I'd see the day when a judge makes that admission after all these years.

I would loved to have seen the face and know the thoughts of the ACLU lawyer when they read that. His jaw probably hit the floor as he quietly gasped "Oh, my god! They know!"

23 posted on 12/20/2005 2:27:54 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN

" I never thought I'd see the day when a judge makes that admission after all these years."

Not 'one' judge. But 'three' judges!

Decision was 3-0...


24 posted on 12/20/2005 2:28:50 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2
Decision was 3-0...

A perfect trinity of judges. ;-)

25 posted on 12/20/2005 2:29:39 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: churchillbuff
"Simply having religious content or promoting a message consistent with a religious doctrine does not run afoul of the Establishment Clause."

~~snip~~

"In short, “proving” that the Ten Commandments themselves are religious does not prove an Establishment Clause violation."

Ouch ACLU, bet that one hurt! (hahaha)

http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/05a0477p-06.pdf

26 posted on 12/20/2005 2:30:00 PM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: GLDNGUN
I would have loved to see these judges 'sanction' the ACLU lawyers for a frivolous law suit.

That would have been sweet.
27 posted on 12/20/2005 2:31:41 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: churchillbuff
Since I don't have the graphic:

WOO HOO!

28 posted on 12/20/2005 2:32:10 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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ping


29 posted on 12/20/2005 2:32:23 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: churchillbuff
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Many Freepers , myself included would interpret that as meaning the Govt. should not establish an official religion for the country. As is often done in some other countries. i.e. Islam.

30 posted on 12/20/2005 2:33:25 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

Not only 'would' we interpret it that way, we 'do' interpret it that way.

(I know I do at least)


31 posted on 12/20/2005 2:34:30 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: churchillbuff

Wow!


32 posted on 12/20/2005 2:35:16 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: churchillbuff
OMG! Think of what this means to all that the ACLU has been trying to apply this to! Public schools, displays, anything that this bogus "separation" has been used on!

Wonderful news!

33 posted on 12/20/2005 2:36:10 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Prepare for Override! Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: churchillbuff

Any time the ACLU is defeated is a time for celebration. The .00001% of the cases they litigate for reasons of true civil liberties does not justify their existence.

We need to help finance the ACLJ so that they have the financial firepower they need.


34 posted on 12/20/2005 2:37:03 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: churchillbuff

"The ACLU....does not embody the reasonable person."

Make 'em write it out ten thousand times, your honor.


35 posted on 12/20/2005 2:41:04 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: churchillbuff

A glorious smackdown of the commie ACLU!


36 posted on 12/20/2005 2:42:08 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: churchillbuff
THANK YOU LORD for the ACLJ!!! Please, I implore all who are ecstatic about this decision to GIVE and GIVE BIG to the ACLJ!! They are the only ones capable of decapitating the AntiChristLU!!
37 posted on 12/20/2005 2:44:28 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: churchillbuff
Just like Santa......
I've been "keeping a list, checking it twice -- gonna make sure who's naughty or nice"........

The ACLU is at the very TOP of my CWII -- "naughty list"...

Semper Fi
38 posted on 12/20/2005 2:44:35 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: churchillbuff

http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/newopn.pl?puid=0


thanks


39 posted on 12/20/2005 2:45:18 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: churchillbuff

About freakin' time someone with half a brain looked at this case.


40 posted on 12/20/2005 2:48:12 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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