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Did Bush willingly commit a ZOT? Please say it ain't so
Posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:47 AM PST by always thr constitution
I have been arguing with stupid libs for two days saying that Bush committed no crime because under the provisions of the USSID 18 and the FSIA, he could with perfect legitimacy eavesdrop on aliens involved in terrorist activities if he had AG approval.
However, what was puzzling is that Gonzales did not cite USSID 18; he cited the more dubious rationale of war powers approval. This would seem to indicate that Bush was spying on US citizens without a Court Order which clearly violates USSID 18 and the FSIA, and was using war powers approval to cover for it.
Now such actions are not unprecedented during wartime; however, since there has been no officiial declaration of war, there seems to be Constitutional as well as legal issues at work here.
I never thought Bush would resort to such extreme measures to skirt the law. I hope I am wrong. Please tell me why Bush didn't do this.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
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To: Moose4
Bunny? Moose? Space Station?
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:07:14 AM PST
by
Dashing Dasher
(Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows.)
To: Michael Goldsberry
I added the kitty in a bunny suit to summon the VK...
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:07:58 AM PST
by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: Dashing Dasher
Bunny? Moose? Space Station? And cheese!
To: always thr constitution
always thr constitutionSo how fast did you trip over yourself in your haste to post this vanity, troll? Hmmmmm?
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:08:43 AM PST
by
Wolfstar
("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
To: Dashing Dasher
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:09:23 AM PST
by
EX52D
((I have shifted to "Christmas Survival Mode"))
To: darkwing104
I think it's a cute bunny.
To: always thr constitution
In same day of the ZOT!
Hey, that's pretty good for me.
To: Michael Goldsberry
How could I forget the cheese.
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:09:36 AM PST
by
Dashing Dasher
(Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows.)
To: Puppage
We are your overloardsSnicker
69
posted on
12/20/2005 9:09:49 AM PST
by
Wolfstar
("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
To: darkwing104
Is that creature related to the jackalope?
To: EX52D
George: You don't think she'd yada yada sex do you?
Elaine: I've yada yada'd sex before. I met this guy. We went out. I had the lobster bisque. We went back to his place. And yada yada. Never heard from him again.
Jerry: but you skipped over the best part.
Elaine: No, I mentioned the bisque.
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:11:05 AM PST
by
Dashing Dasher
(Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows.)
To: always thr constitution; darkwing104
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:11:38 AM PST
by
Zacs Mom
(Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
To: muleskinner
Just a well camouflage kitty for unsuspecting trolls
73
posted on
12/20/2005 9:11:53 AM PST
by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: Dashing Dasher
LOL...I am such a Seinfeld junkie...
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:13:15 AM PST
by
EX52D
((I have shifted to "Christmas Survival Mode"))
To: linda_22003
then so is Bruce Fein, a former Reagan Deputy AG: If Bruce posts nonsense on FR with the intent to disrupt, then he will be officially a "troll". Right now he's just wrong.
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:13:25 AM PST
by
Not A Snowbird
(Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
To: linda_22003
If the poster is a "troll", then so is Bruce Fein, a former Reagan Deputy AG.Oh, puhleeeese. There are plenty of weak-kneed Republicans around. They spend their lives groveling before Dimocrats. I doubt many of us here will suddenly melt because you bring up some former Justice Dept. hack from the Reagan era.
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:13:38 AM PST
by
Wolfstar
("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
To: darkwing104
Pirate kitty...
To: Zacs Mom
Nice to see the Viking Kitties have decorated for Christmas.
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:14:19 AM PST
by
exile
(Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
To: EX52D
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posted on
12/20/2005 9:14:37 AM PST
by
Dashing Dasher
(Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows.)
To: always thr constitution
All Your "Constitutional as well as legal issues at work here" Are Belong To Us
You are on the way to destruction
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