Posted on 12/20/2005 3:15:35 AM PST by E Rocc
Bill Would Allow Arrests For No Reason In Public Place
Citizens Would Also Have To Show ID
UPDATED: 7:22 pm EST December 19, 2005
CLEVELAND -- A bill on Gov. Bob Taft's desk right now is drawing a lot of criticism, NewsChannel5 reported.
One state representative said it resembles Gestapo-style tactics of government, and there could be changes coming on the streets of Ohio's small towns and big cities.
The Ohio Patriot Act has made it to the Taft's desk, and with the stroke of a pen, it would most likely become the toughest terrorism bill in the country. The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.
WEWS reported it would also pave the way for everyone entering critical transportation sites such as, train stations, airports and bus stations to show ID.
"It brings us frighteningly close to a show me your papers society," said Carrie Davis of the ACLU, which opposes the Ohio Patriot Act.
There are many others who oppose the bill as well.
"The variety of people who opposed to this is not just a group of the usual suspects. We have people far right to the left opposing the bill who think it is a bad idea," said Al McGinty, NewsChannel5s terrorism expert.
McGinty said he isn't sure the law would do what it's intended to do.
"I think anything we do to enhance security and give power to protect the public to police officers is a good idea," he said. "It is a good law in the wrong direction."
Gov. Bob Taft will make the ultimate decision on whether to sign the bill.
WEWS was told that Taft is expected to sign the bill into law, but legal experts expect that it will be challenged in courts.
Of the several states I have lived any significant time in, from my own perspective Ohio had the most "Big Brotherly", anti-individual, and pro-government bureacracy feel to it when compared to either Missouri, Kansas, North Carolina, Arizona, Texas or Connecticut. Can't speak of any other states because I haven't lived in others.
One of those hard to explain, but odd feelings anytime I had to any interaction with the state or local officials.
Things like this make me glad to have moved out of Ohio.
Amen
So did the Ohio bureacracy give you that same creepy feel that I was trying to describe in my post above?
Yes, it did. NE Ohio in particular is full of corruption.
Cheers,
Lloyd
I lived there for 18 years, moved out in 2000 and have no current plans to return.
What are you afraid of? Do you have something to hide? Don't you want the government to keep you safe???!!??
Are you a RINO?
sarcasm...in case you didn't get it
And if you are taking a walk, and don't have ID on you, are you screwed?
Maybe we all need to have something tatooed on our butts
Tell me when you get your Government tattoo
Not a lot of the current bunch; they're happy to have the government take care of them
Just to walk your friggin dog, and you think this is OK?
No kneejerk Freepers here... LOL
Suppose you are just walking along the street and a cop approaches you. You haven't done anything or seen anything, but the cop has. He's just not willing to tell you, as he doesn't want to prejudice the case he's building against a perp you passed on the sidewalk a minute or two earlier.
So the cop asks your name, address and DOB. You say, "Why? Are you going to arrest me for being on the city street?"
"Only if you refuse to give me your name, address and date of birth. I believe you may know something about a crime."
"What!? What happened? Tell me."
"Can't tell you that. I just need your name, address and date of birth. Now, are you gonna give it to me or am I gonna hafta run you in?"
So whatcha gonna do? Punt?
I never said one way or the other whether it's okay or not. I was just posting the information that I found stating what the law IS.
Indeed they have, and the decision is wrong for so many reasons.
Too much time spent listening to Roger Hedgecock and Sean Hannity. The ACLU is wrong on a lot of issues, but they're right sometimes. This is one of them.
Disgusting? Yes. Surprising? No.
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