Bush’s Snoopgate

Newsweek ^ | 12/19/06 | Jonathan Alter

[Xanadu2112]

Dec. 19, 2005 - Finally we have a Washington scandal that goes beyond sex, corruption and political intrigue to big issues like security versus liberty and the reasonable bounds of presidential power. President Bush came out swinging on Snoopgate—he made it seem as if those who didn’t agree with him wanted to leave us vulnerable to Al Qaeda—but it will not work. We’re seeing clearly now that Bush thought 9/11 gave him license to act like a dictator, or in his own mind, no doubt, like Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War.

[Xanadu2112]

Mr. Alter,

This story is why your magazine continues to lose subscriptions and revenues. Maybe next time Johnny! but I wouldn't start booking your tickets for the impeachment just yet. As usual you and your Marxist buddies jump the gun and then Mr. Bush closes the trap on you. We'll see you in 2008 when you can cry over another Democrat party loss because nobody trusts them or you to protect the United States! Thanks and have a nice day, you hack!

Love,

Xanadu 2112

[wny]

Where's the barf alert?

[Lakeshark]

These folks just won't give it up.

Sickening.

[QueenBee3]

Does anyone have any info on the kind of 'snooping' and or 'spying' went on leading up to and during WWII? Just out of curiosity, it would seem to me that when at war, there are certain things you gotta do. My leftie friends are in a lather over this issue and it just seems kind of obvious to me.

[xcamel]

NewsWeak, by way of PMSNBC and BSN

whooo... big news...

[Caveman Lawyer]

Newsweek ^ | 12/19/06 | Jonathan Alter

[newconhere]

OMG, Its incredible! I cant stand it.

[Nuc1]

That about sums it up. Well done.

[doesnt suffer fools gladly]

What a pantload!

[Altair333]

"President Bush came out swinging on Snoopgate—he made it seem as if those who didn’t agree with him wanted to leave us vulnerable to Al Qaeda—but it will not work."

Yes, it will because the American people agree with him and don't give a da*n if some Saudi-American radical has his phone tapped.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"My leftie friends are in a lather over this issue and it just seems kind of obvious to me."

Why not ask them about the Internment Camps during WWII? That should make their heads explode, then your problems are over once and for all, LOL!

Can you even imagine what life for we Pubbies would be like now had every Muslim been rounded up and confined on 9/12/01?

I'd use that to compare and contrast their argument as to how evil America could be if she still had some balls and hadn't been watered down to the point where all we do now is listen in on a few phone conversations. *Rolleyes* ;)

[Humidston]

I just ate dinner. Because of that, I am not able to read anything from this mindless twit.

[Dolphy]

Does anyone have any info on the kind of 'snooping' and or 'spying' went on leading up to and during WWII?

I guess we can draw our own conclusions by considering first Pearl Harbor and then the Japanese internment camps.

[Lakeshark]

gave him license to act like a dictator

This from the article, of course an unbiased phrase......

*rolling eyes*

[Paloma_55]

I thought Clinton was a master at getting his detractors all tangled up trying to attack him, but Bush does it so much better.

The big difference, Clinton used sexual infidelity as the tar-baby because it was extremely convenient, he was always screwing around. His detractors would demonstrate their disgust with his behavior and it took them away from the really BAD things he was doing like selling out technology, giving away top secret info, and using the agencies as a personal tool to silence political opponents.

Bush uses his authority as president, and the integrity he applies to that job, as the tar-baby. These people can not stand to see him lead like this, so they attack every thing that they think might be a blemish, but it only turns into the RIGHT THING TO DO and they look stupid for over-shooting.

Here we go again!

[DBrow]

In the book "The Puzzle Palace", they tell of the USG asking Western Union for copies of ALL telegrams and wires going overseas. Big net. This happened not just during WWII but during other periods too.

All the books about the Manhattan Project bring up the surveillance done around that project, mostly against US citizens, too, and not just the ones at Oak Ridge or Los Alamos. If you wrote a newspaper story using one of many keywords (actinide, neutron, uranium, and so on) you were watched for a while.


Remember the Chicago Seven? They got set free because some of the evidence collected against them was via NSA interception of calls where one end is a foreigner in a foreign country, and the other end was a US citizen (one of the Seven).

Then there's Echelon during the Clinton era. Don't know how much of that was true, but it was talked about quite a bit.

[wolfpat]

I'm not sure what I think about this "Snoopgate". I understand the need to act quickly when an opportunity for intelligence on the terrorists comes up, and that this action might save hundreds or even thousands of lives,

BUT,

I would have been uncomfortable with President G.H.W. Bush doing this. I would have hated President Clinton doing this. I'm not real happy with President G.W. Bush doing this. And I'm terrified at the thought of President H. Clinton doing this.

[Reagan Man]

Jonathan Alter, an expert at leftwing spin and a huge a-hole to boot. Nothing new.

[Proud_USA_Republican]

snoopgate, to be added to the list of other -gates where liberals try to invent news and end up with egg on their faces:

rathergate, downingstreetgate, plamegate, electiongate

[DBrow]

Clinton used sexual infidelity as the tar-baby

He still does! If Chinese trading deals comes up, the topic gets shifted to blue dresses, and he openly whines about that rather than, just where did two of our Cray computers go, and with what software?

It keeps him safe.

Now if Bush were to do that, he'd mention, "Well, I was talking to someone at Halliburton and they said..."