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Plan to add visas for high-tech and skilled workers dropped
ap on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 12/19/05 | Erica Werner - ap

Posted on 12/19/2005 1:39:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AP) - A Senate-passed measure to add more visas for foreign workers in high-tech and specialty fields was dropped from a budget bill that passed the House early Monday, disappointing high-tech and manufacturing firms in search of skilled workers.

The Senate plan would have allowed 30,000 more of the popular H1-B visas each year, and increased fees for those visas to help trim the budget deficit. Congress capped the six-year H-1B visas at 65,000 per year in 2004, and that cap has already been reached for the 2006 fiscal year that began Oct. 1.

The Senate language also would have allowed 90,000 more employment-based green cards that offer permanent residency to skilled workers, and added fees for those.

Critics contend the visas give foreigners high-level jobs that should go to American workers, and the plan was opposed by some House Republicans as a backdoor way to boost immigration. House and Senate negotiators left it out of the final version of a $39.7 billion federal budget bill that passed the House 212-206 and was expected to get a Senate vote later in the day.

"This is very, very disappointing," said Sandy Boyd, a vice president at the National Association of Manufacturers. "What's distressing about this, and what the Senate clearly understood, is there is a real global competition for this work and for these employees, and the question is not whether the work is going to get done, it's where is the work going to get done. We've missed a real opportunity by not ensuring the work would be done here."

House and Senate negotiators also dropped a plan to increase fees on another kind of visa, the L-1, which companies use to transfer workers they already employ in foreign countries to the United States.

The boost to visa availability and fees was meant to achieve budget savings in programs under jurisdiction of the congressional judiciary committees. Instead of using visas, the final version of the bill saves money in judiciary programs by increasing fees for filing lawsuits and filing for bankruptcy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; dropped; h1b; hightech; immigrantlist; skilled; visas; workers; workforce
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1 posted on 12/19/2005 1:39:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 12/19/2005 1:41:38 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: NormsRevenge

Good. I know to many goo people looking for work that want these jobs.


3 posted on 12/19/2005 1:42:37 PM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: TXBSAFH

Well, there are plenty of openings. Many employers are looking hard to find people with the skills they need, and right now they're not finding them.


4 posted on 12/19/2005 1:45:58 PM PST by proxy_user
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That's the truth. We hired an American guy about two months ago to do this high-level job we've been trying to fill for a year. He lasted about a month; couldn't even do basic stuff. We just hired a Chinese fellow who really knows what he's doing.


5 posted on 12/19/2005 1:47:51 PM PST by TheBigB ("Hey, barkeep, whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?"--Brian Griffin)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


6 posted on 12/19/2005 1:49:24 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: NormsRevenge

We need Dubya to use the bully pulpit to start encouraging our younsers to return to pursueing science and engineering degrees instead UWBW degrees. We are the best in the world because we have excelled in science and engineering in the past.


7 posted on 12/19/2005 1:49:29 PM PST by Mogollon
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We finally found one guy who has the skills we need. He's an Indian, but has a green card. He knows Oracle database, PLSQL, J2EE, Java Struts, and Web Services....and knows them very well.

But that's just one opening, and he's not cheap.


8 posted on 12/19/2005 1:50:46 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: NormsRevenge

>>The boost to visa availability and fees was meant to achieve budget savings in programs under jurisdiction of the congressional judiciary committees.<<

Yes, that means hire foreign workers at lower wages than America techs are worth.


11 posted on 12/19/2005 1:58:47 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: George_Bailey

See post #8. We're ready to pay well, and don't see anyone available.

You can't say that the $70-110K range is not a good salary, although you might say that the guys we're looking for might be able to get more somewhere else.


12 posted on 12/19/2005 1:59:39 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: George_Bailey

I am sure there aren't. However, this wasn't an IT position.


13 posted on 12/19/2005 2:00:21 PM PST by TheBigB ("Hey, barkeep, whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?"--Brian Griffin)
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To: A. Pole; Willie Green

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14 posted on 12/19/2005 2:02:07 PM PST by raybbr
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To: NormsRevenge
"This is very, very disappointing," said Sandy Boyd, a vice president at the National Association of Manufacturers."
Yea. Well I wonder how disappointed he would be to be struggling to find a job the fully qualify for but will get due to all the jobs being promised to foreigners. I know it happened to me. Slick Billy Gates cries that American enterprise must start investing more in sponsoring American kids to go for degress in science/engineering/programming etc., but what is the use if these kids will find no work.
It continues to get worse all the time. Perhaps this Boyd guy will be replaced by someone from India. Hey why not. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
15 posted on 12/19/2005 2:04:15 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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We need Dubya to use the bully pulpit to start encouraging our younsers to return to pursueing science and engineering degrees instead UWBW degrees.

That's what they did in the 90s, telling everyone computer knowledge was the wave of the future and encouraged people to get into it. Problem is while they were doing that H1-b visas went through the roof thereby undercutting those very same potential engineers.

It's no wonder fewer and fewer would take it up with those type prospects. A scenario btw companies prefer so then they can turn around and claim we need more foreigners (who work cheaper) because less and less Americans are learning the skills.

16 posted on 12/19/2005 2:07:20 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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"Many employers are looking hard to find people with the skills they need, and right now they're not finding them."

Yeah my company is always looking for highly-skilled, technical people. That's why they routinely fire workers over 50 and hire Indians and Chinese.


17 posted on 12/19/2005 2:08:05 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

bingo!


18 posted on 12/19/2005 2:14:29 PM PST by chasio649
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To: NormsRevenge; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
A Senate-passed measure to add more visas for foreign workers in high-tech and specialty fields was dropped from a budget bill that passed the House early Monday, disappointing high-tech and manufacturing firms in search of skilled workers.

They will have to hire some Americans, possibly at higher wages. O horror!

19 posted on 12/19/2005 2:18:46 PM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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Well, there are plenty of openings. Many employers are looking hard to find people with the skills they need, and right now they're not finding them.

"the skills they need"? What type of special skills they need that American engineers are not capable to pick in reasonable time? And why is that that Indian or Chinese have long/sufficient experience in using these skills, are Indian and Chinese industries more advanced than American one?

20 posted on 12/19/2005 2:32:31 PM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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